Hello. I'm curious to know what the status is of the potential phpBB 4 default style? I know that 'Chameleon' is supposed to be the new style but it hasn't seen any development in around 2+ years now. I'm keen to get involved with it but it seems all the original links have disappeared / don't work / lead to nowhere so I'm stuck on how to proceed.
So my main question is ultimately, what is the progress with Chameleon and how can I get involved or 'revive' the side project and contribute to it? Please share any details you can, I'd love to help.
New v4 style proposals?
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Re: New v4 style proposals?
there are two project.
1- ACP new style
2- phpbb default new style
is there any idea u have in ur mind?
1- ACP new style
2- phpbb default new style
is there any idea u have in ur mind?
Re: New v4 style proposals?
Hello,
I've refactored the CSS for the horizontal lists using modern properties (flex, margin-inline, css var), which allowed me to use the natural flow of the document and to simplify the declarations as much as possible while maintaining the responsive and rtl display.
The screenshots only show the topics list but the rendering is also correct in the forums list, the UCP or the MCP.
Would this be of interest to you?
I've refactored the CSS for the horizontal lists using modern properties (flex, margin-inline, css var), which allowed me to use the natural flow of the document and to simplify the declarations as much as possible while maintaining the responsive and rtl display.
The screenshots only show the topics list but the rendering is also correct in the forums list, the UCP or the MCP.
Re: New v4 style proposals?
tnx for ur work. but dont waste ur time for prosilver. phpbb4 has plan to move new style and firmware ( but this decide is from 2012 and now in 2024 )
Re: New v4 style proposals?
I don't think it's a waste of time; prosilver could definitely do with a refactor of it's codebase to make it more modern and scalable but I do also agree that you shouldn't spend too much time on it assuming it'll stay the default style.
A new style will get made at some point, by who and when is something we'll have to find out at a later date.
A new style will get made at some point, by who and when is something we'll have to find out at a later date.
Re: New v4 style proposals?
prosilver definitely has to be made/updated for 4.0 otherwise you will kill 99% of the existing styles 
Re: New v4 style proposals?
That shouldn't be a problem. 4.0 should introduce many breaking changes. The problem with supporting prosilver for such a long time is that you'll never be able to improve and iterate on a new design choice.
Why do you think subsilver isn't a thing anymore? Because prosilver took its place and moved the project forward. Relying on backwards compatibility is not a valid reason for sticking with or just updating prosilver. You have to move forward and make progress.
Why do you think subsilver isn't a thing anymore? Because prosilver took its place and moved the project forward. Relying on backwards compatibility is not a valid reason for sticking with or just updating prosilver. You have to move forward and make progress.
Re: New v4 style proposals?
One thing is supporting prosilver (Will be supported for a long time.. For how long? Hell knows?!) another is to refactor it.
Hanakin said refactoring would be a waste of time. I'm sure many agree with him.
Updating prosilver a little wont hurt anyone.
About current state of new theme.. There are still some points that needs to be solved (for example removing html from php files).
There is a topic that has all those points, that needs to be done to move forward.
Maybe someone has a better idea about new style/framework/whatnot, then it's another story and I'm sure that many of us would like to hear more about it.
Hanakin said refactoring would be a waste of time. I'm sure many agree with him.
Updating prosilver a little wont hurt anyone.
About current state of new theme.. There are still some points that needs to be solved (for example removing html from php files).
There is a topic that has all those points, that needs to be done to move forward.
Maybe someone has a better idea about new style/framework/whatnot, then it's another story and I'm sure that many of us would like to hear more about it.
Last edited by GanstaZ on Mon Aug 19, 2024 2:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: New v4 style proposals?
Personally, I'm almost sure phpBB4 won't get new style (just because its development status is null, and yes, if you say about Chameleon - it's not a style but a framework).
So adjusting Prosilver is definitely not a waste of time.
So adjusting Prosilver is definitely not a waste of time.
Re: New v4 style proposals?
If there is to be a new style, well, that's fine, but the new future style is a hypothesis as things stand, if not wishful thinking.
In my humble opinion, in order to support the continuous integration of phpBB, it seems necessary to do the same with prosilver, failing a new style. This means refactoring its code using modern CSS as much as possible, especially as the language is evolving much faster than ever with new features (flex & grid, container queries, CSS var & @property, nesting, :has(), color-mix(), etc.).
As for me, I'm just a simple contributor with a passion for integration and I have no other pretensions, but it seems to me that it would be useful to know what the phpBB developers think, if only to have a slightly clearer vision of the future and to motivate people who would like to get involved and support the project.
In my humble opinion, in order to support the continuous integration of phpBB, it seems necessary to do the same with prosilver, failing a new style. This means refactoring its code using modern CSS as much as possible, especially as the language is evolving much faster than ever with new features (flex & grid, container queries, CSS var & @property, nesting, :has(), color-mix(), etc.).
As for me, I'm just a simple contributor with a passion for integration and I have no other pretensions, but it seems to me that it would be useful to know what the phpBB developers think, if only to have a slightly clearer vision of the future and to motivate people who would like to get involved and support the project.