phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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Bootstrap 5 or hanakin framework

Bootstrap 5
5
45%
Hanakin Framework
5
45%
Twig
1
9%
 
Total votes: 11

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phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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Why is a new framework being created instead of basing the style on bootstrap 5? This would speed up the work considerably. Many scripts and cms now use bootstrap. I think there should be a great discussion on that. Relying on the bootstrap framework would open a large gateway for people creating styles for phpbb. And that would create many more styles for phpbb, because it would be much faster and easier. And know, the more nice styles for the forum, the more users creating forums on phpbb. Sorry for my bad english. I think there should be a big conversation along with the vote.

Most wordpress templates are based on bootstrap.
Prestashop is also working on bootstrap 5 support.

It's open source, so we should go faster than wasting time on a new framework.
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Re: phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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Whist Bootstrap could be an option don't forget that there are many more css frameworks that could be utilised and that should be an option in the poll.

I believe that this discussion has already taken place and the reasoning behind not using one of the existing frameworks is that for phpBB's purposes there is too much bloat - whether that is true or not I cannot say as I am not a style designer, but it has never been a consideration is the past with the likes of Symfony, Twig and Doctrine
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Hi
with all respect to my friend hanakin , the problem is "time" , hanakin is working alone on chameleon and we can see after 3 or 4 year this project not complete yet and my prediction is maybe it will complete 3 year later.

working on Bootstrap have some benefit , first: others people can develop it not only one person.
second: there are many docs for bootstrap.

i hope to see phpBB 4 next year but chameleon with this conditions not complete until 2025 !

so i am agree with using bootstrap into phpBB in 4 version , chameleon project can be in phpBB 5

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I do not like bootstrap, but as david63 said...
there are many more css frameworks that could be utilised and that should be an option in the poll.
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This poll is pretty useless because there're no frontend developers standing at the start line and waiting for the poll results to go implementing them asap. There's only 1 phpBB frontend developer who's implementing what he thinks right and he's not going to do what the poll will say.
So, anyone is free to get this task and make alternative phpBB core style based on any existing framework instead of creating such ideas/polls/etc just to waste a time.
Also there's no point to spam via PM for people to get to this topic.
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chameleon slows down phpbb 4 release. more people could participate in the bootstrap. in chameleon only hanakin knows what's going on.

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Re: phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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Noone restricts style developers to Chameleon framework. If there're people who wants to create bootstrap-based phpBB style, they're free to create pull request and do that right now. But there're no such people around, so the conclusion about "more people could participate in the bootstrap" is not obvious.
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Re: phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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There are a lot of users in the general forum who style phpbb so maybe one of them could contribute to the project?

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DracoBlue_ wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:35 pm There are a lot of users in the general forum who style phpbb so maybe one of them could contribute to the project?
And would you be one of them?

I notice you have added Twig but Twig is not a css framework - it is a templating system which will be used no matter which framework is used
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Re: phpBB 4.0 support for Bootstrap 5

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I am a computer graphic artist, unfortunately I do not deal with the front end.
I invite you to discuss the appearance https://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopi ... 51&t=80696

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