Yea I suppose I agree with you on that. Just because it may not be a good idea to have on some boards, it's still not a good enough excuse not to include it anyway as an 'optional extra' regardless of if it would get used or not or go against the devlopers ethics...
... Then again the same could be said for a lot of features, the one that springs to my mind being a Quick Reply function, but for some insane reason (it was psoTFX mainly wasn't it?) they thought it made the forum system into more of a chat room system? Which is, in my very honest opinion, a pathetic excuse not to include it.
It still leaves the debate open though on how a suitable system could be created to make use of some sort of 'karma' ratings... I personally can't think of one as I've really already stated.
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I agree, a quick reply would be nice.Glorius Hole wrote: Yea I suppose I agree with you on that. Just because it may not be a good idea to have on some boards, it's still not a good enough excuse not to include it anyway as an 'optional extra' regardless of if it would get used or not or go against the devlopers ethics...
... Then again the same could be said for a lot of features, the one that springs to my mind being a Quick Reply function, but for some insane reason (it was psoTFX mainly wasn't it?) they thought it made the forum system into more of a chat room system? Which is, in my very honest opinion, a pathetic excuse not to include it.
It still leaves the debate open though on how a suitable system could be created to make use of some sort of 'karma' ratings... I personally can't think of one as I've really already stated.
I really don't know how a Karma system could be created beyond what's already been said. it could be really great if they got it right though.
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Re: New Karma System (Theory)
This topic is about the Karma system, please leave quick reply out of it.
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I think it would be good to leave it as a optional part of the program, with that being said, how optional could it be made.
1. Turn it off completely, meaning you can turn it on when you feel like it, or turn it off as well.
2. Turn it on some threads, and not have it on other threads, meaning if a thread looks like it is a good thread, then the admin, can turn it on that particular thread.
3. Have it set up like the polling sytem currently is, where if the karma system is turned on, allow the beginning poster decide if they want it on their thread, or not. Or the admin can decide if he wants the user to have that kind of control, like the polling system currently has.
Also I think the karma system would be a good addition to the program, due to allowing the users to help police the boards, also you can set it up, that the admin, can vary his weight by his vote, meaning if they see some people ganging up on a particular user, then the admin can vote, and maybe his vote can count as three votes, or two votes, after all it is their boards, and if they don't like a particular poster, then it would be a easy way to get rid of them.
Also that can work vice versa, if the admin likes a particular poster, and sees that the rest of the users are unfairly ganging up on them, then he can vote, yes or no, depending on what he thinks, after all it is the admin that is adminstering the boards, and it is the admin, that will either keep the users, or lose them depending on how he votes.
So it is within the best interest to the admin to adminster's their boards correctly, a user can always leave if he doesn't like a particular board. So to keep their users happy, and posting correctly, he will have to keep them happy.
I know that opened a whole another can of worms, but the final thing is, the Admin makes or breaks their user's and readership. Getting into the moral issues of the karma system, should not be the deciding factor, as to whether or not it is included or not included in the program. Clearly there is a mod already out there for a karma system, so it is a desired feature, otherwise people would not want it.
I am assuming that the karma system would be tied into the amount of posts a person makes, so if a person makes one post and it is the worst, they would only take a small hit, or maybe the karma system doesn't kick in on a user until they reach a certain amount of posts, like 50 posts, then the karma system kicks in. Or if you have posted 500 excellent posts, then you post a horrible post, that person would not take a drastic hit on their karma, since they did post 500 excellent posts.
1. Turn it off completely, meaning you can turn it on when you feel like it, or turn it off as well.
2. Turn it on some threads, and not have it on other threads, meaning if a thread looks like it is a good thread, then the admin, can turn it on that particular thread.
3. Have it set up like the polling sytem currently is, where if the karma system is turned on, allow the beginning poster decide if they want it on their thread, or not. Or the admin can decide if he wants the user to have that kind of control, like the polling system currently has.
Also I think the karma system would be a good addition to the program, due to allowing the users to help police the boards, also you can set it up, that the admin, can vary his weight by his vote, meaning if they see some people ganging up on a particular user, then the admin can vote, and maybe his vote can count as three votes, or two votes, after all it is their boards, and if they don't like a particular poster, then it would be a easy way to get rid of them.
Also that can work vice versa, if the admin likes a particular poster, and sees that the rest of the users are unfairly ganging up on them, then he can vote, yes or no, depending on what he thinks, after all it is the admin that is adminstering the boards, and it is the admin, that will either keep the users, or lose them depending on how he votes.
So it is within the best interest to the admin to adminster's their boards correctly, a user can always leave if he doesn't like a particular board. So to keep their users happy, and posting correctly, he will have to keep them happy.
I know that opened a whole another can of worms, but the final thing is, the Admin makes or breaks their user's and readership. Getting into the moral issues of the karma system, should not be the deciding factor, as to whether or not it is included or not included in the program. Clearly there is a mod already out there for a karma system, so it is a desired feature, otherwise people would not want it.
I am assuming that the karma system would be tied into the amount of posts a person makes, so if a person makes one post and it is the worst, they would only take a small hit, or maybe the karma system doesn't kick in on a user until they reach a certain amount of posts, like 50 posts, then the karma system kicks in. Or if you have posted 500 excellent posts, then you post a horrible post, that person would not take a drastic hit on their karma, since they did post 500 excellent posts.
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Re: New Karma System (Theory)
Could you please guys change the name of the feature "karma" to another one? I'm chrisitan, i dont believe in, i mean real, karma, therefore i don't like the way you called the feature.
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no way, the feature is what it is. we have to deal with the jesus christ worshiping all over the place, you can tolerate the word Karma.brightbeat451 wrote: Could you please guys change the name of the feature "karma" to another one? I'm chrisitan, i dont believe in, i mean real, karma, therefore i don't like the way you called the feature.
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It's a word. I think most people can handle the word karama on a web site (most of us don't have emotional relationships with our internet connection, we just use it to get online)brightbeat451 wrote: Could you please guys change the name of the feature "karma" to another one? I'm chrisitan, i dont believe in, i mean real, karma, therefore i don't like the way you called the feature.
What word did you have in mind?
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The term karma wasn't chosen here, it is used on many other sites. It is called so because karma is something ungraspable, but you can have a lot of it, which is good, and not so much, which is not so good
I think the word was historically chosen because there is no connection to a concrete concept. You could call it reputation, or coolness, but that already puts more (too much?) meaning to it.
Factor X, maybe?
I think the word was historically chosen because there is no connection to a concrete concept. You could call it reputation, or coolness, but that already puts more (too much?) meaning to it.
Factor X, maybe?
Re: New Karma System (Theory)
it will probably be released under karma but you are welcome to change the word in one of the lang files
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Karma is basically a Hindu religious concept, but Western idealogy has changed the intial Hindu concept into a more fesiable concept, Karma can either be positive or negative. If you help someone, or help towards doing something good, then you get good Karma, if you do something bad, or evil then you get bad Karma, then over time karma comes back to get you. If you have done a lot of good things, then it will be a good Karma, if you ahve done a lot of evil things, or bad things, then it will come back as bad Karma.
It is sort of like blessings, but blessings are only signfiy good things, it does not have a measurement tool for doing bad things. So I think that is why everyone has chosen the word Karma, it is one word, and reflects bad and good, whereas blessings is two words ie. Good Blessings, and Bad Blessings.
Karma is the industry standard now, for forums. Everyone knows what a Karma system is. That is what I search on in the search engines, when trying to find a easy installation for a mod, when I found this post.
I agree with NNO-Stephen, though I think the word should stay Karma, and besides that is the least of our worries right now. I am sure the developers are thinking on how they can implement this system correctly, instead of some half-witted idea. Which I have to give them PROPS for doing that,
. Thanks again, for even thinking about implementing this into the code of the forums.
It is sort of like blessings, but blessings are only signfiy good things, it does not have a measurement tool for doing bad things. So I think that is why everyone has chosen the word Karma, it is one word, and reflects bad and good, whereas blessings is two words ie. Good Blessings, and Bad Blessings.
Karma is the industry standard now, for forums. Everyone knows what a Karma system is. That is what I search on in the search engines, when trying to find a easy installation for a mod, when I found this post.
I agree with NNO-Stephen, though I think the word should stay Karma, and besides that is the least of our worries right now. I am sure the developers are thinking on how they can implement this system correctly, instead of some half-witted idea. Which I have to give them PROPS for doing that,