"View Source" not working or disabled

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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hater wrote:I suppose it is my mistake to assume I would receive friendly moderation from an opensource free fora also?
Considering programmer types are supposed to have more initiative than the general populace... one would have thought they'd look at the most obvious place first... say Google:
Google wrote:Results 1 - 10 of about 1,240,000 for IE can't view source. (0.28 seconds)
As for friendliness... it's just firm and neutral answer, though if you expected molly-coddling... yeah I guess one would be rather disappointed.
hater wrote: I wasn't fishing for any answer. There was no right or wrong there to even presume that it was an answer I was or was not looking for. As much as I am greatful for the work that is put into phpBB, I am also thankful for your descending attitude as it reminds me of why I enjoy programming so much; to eventually take over the hardass cranky people that seem to have lost their willingness to provide the moderation they seem to have somehow weasled there way into, even on an opensource product. ;)
The answer you were looking for is even on Microsoft's own site:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... -US;179829" target="_blank

A bug from Internet Explorer 4.0 for NT4 which still exists over half a decade later.

If you're suffering from "loss of face", then I can see why you would try and deride the moderation team as "hardass cranky people". Winking at me is not going to change how your post is viewed.

Still, if you think you can write and support a better product... they you're welcome to do so by all means.
hater wrote: So, we can continue getting the last word on one another as long as we'd like, which seems to take place quite a bit on this devboard after reviewing some heated debates, however the eventuality is that I will be banned if I become a nuescence so I digress and suggest this topic be locked as it seems the ultimate answer is that I am a retard for using IE and asking a pretty simple question that searching here specifically didn't answer. :)
I'll ignore the fact that IE issue has been there for over 5 years.

I'll ignore the fact that Google returns over 1 million results on the search term for the symptom of the problem (and solutions there of)

I'll ignore the fact that you'd probably have seen this behaviour in not just phpBB2.2, but also other websites using things of no relation to phpBB whatsoever.

Would it have been that difficult to just try an alternative browser? Simple debugging... "Does X still happen when Z is used instead of Y?"
hater wrote: Going forward I'll try and remember that we're not really here to benefit from each other, but rather to point out the foibles of those that haven't been involved with things day in and day out since the beginning. :roll: 8O

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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p.s. - I never intended for my topic to come off as "Ha ha you broke this" or "look what you did because of your crappy development software" so please don't think that this was some sort of bug report or that I was throwing something back at you.

Because I enjoy using and learning from phpBB, I found it odd that it wasn't working and was just asking if anyone else had the problem or if this was a known issue. So, I apologize if I came off in a different tone.

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Hrm hmm... So I jumped the gun on asking for an answer... This was a IE bug I hadn't encounted to think of as being an IE bug. I tried it on my buddies mac, and my work uses IE 5.5 on an NT network, and I use whatever the most recent version is at home on XP which again I never really cared to keep track of. So I tried on the resources that were immediately available to me at the time short of caring enough to ask google when I could ask a team of people that up until now were known for providing pretty nice support. (Come to think of it, http://www.phpbb.com/support/" target="_blank doesn't say anything about friendly OR cuddling, my fault for assuming that also. ;) )

Not sure I really need to explain myself here as it's pretty obvious that the general question I asked led to a drawn out "look at the retard, lets point and laugh" response I've experienced. I suppose it's no skin off your ass if you *beep* someone off, I can just add you to my ignore list. (crap, I bet I can't ignore a moderator can I?) ;)

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Nope, you can't have any of Administrators, Super Moderators or Moderators on your "foes"/ignore list, it was coded that way on purpose ;)
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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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For good reason obviously, and with a certain amount of seriousness, I am trying to be as understanding and relaxed about this as possible. :D

Again I'm sorry if did not follow the rules of asking a question, my mistake. I'm glad I still have fingers to type SHS` and that you did not cut them off for such a cardinal sin. ;)

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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Strange one, but here was my resolution. I discovered the fix as by removing one of two instances of notepade.exe being located in C:\windows. One was a shortcut to notepad.exe (C:\windows).

This resolved the issue for me.

Good luck,


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Perhaps in all that deleting, you also accidentially placed your brain in the recycling bin as well.

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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hater wrote:Perhaps in all that deleting, you also accidentially placed your brain in the recycling bin as well.
Such a friendly place, this is. :lol:

With all due to respect to SHS` and Google, there is no clear reason (unless I'm missing it) why "view source" works on this machine but not on that, which has been my experience. All using the same version of IE, but different versions of Windows. The TMP variable explanation is intriguing but not very satisfactory in terms of solutions, since the problem seems to come and go on any given machine.

So, this mystery is great, and just as a point of information, it'd be interesting to know why it happens, regardless of any lack of connection with phpBB. Maybe this discussion belongs to Chit Chat ...

Edit: I knew we'd discussed this before ... just had to find it:

http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB22/viewtop ... =4&t=14644" target="_blank
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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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hater wrote:Perhaps in all that deleting, you also accidentially placed your brain in the recycling bin as well.

What ever nerd!

Simply trying to help... worked for me butt wipe.

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

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hater wrote:I suppose it is my mistake to assume I would receive friendly moderation from an opensource free fora also?

I wasn't fishing for any answer. There was no right or wrong there to even presume that it was an answer I was or was not looking for. As much as I am greatful for the work that is put into phpBB, I am also thankful for your descending attitude as it reminds me of why I enjoy programming so much; to eventually take over the hardass cranky people that seem to have lost their willingness to provide the moderation they seem to have somehow weasled there way into, even on an opensource product. ;)

So, we can continue getting the last word on one another as long as we'd like, which seems to take place quite a bit on this devboard after reviewing some heated debates, however the eventuality is that I will be banned if I become a nuescence so I digress and suggest this topic be locked as it seems the ultimate answer is that I am a retard for using IE and asking a pretty simple question that searching here specifically didn't answer. :)

Going forward I'll try and remember that we're not really here to benefit from each other, but rather to point out the foibles of those that haven't been involved with things day in and day out since the beginning. :roll: 8O

:mrgreen:
I don't understand why you are continuing... your question has been answered.

And as a website developer (http://www.codedemons.net) I have to vouch for Firefox. I have bee using it ever since the Phoenix days and have to say that it is by far the best browser out there.

I would also like to add that, as a website developer, it becomes overwhelming to have to worry about your site working on every single browser. All we can do is create a web page that is standards compliant.

Obviously the phpBB Group would like to get any bugs fixed, but at the same time they cannot be worrying with figuring out work-arounds for every single browser that does not display the page correctly.

It this was an isolated incident with IE I would suggest that it be fixed asap, but it is REALLY very time consuming to have to worry about bugs in other people's software (IE).

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Re: "View Source" not working or disabled

Post by richardwhiuk »

You could always try right clicking and the selecting view source. Granted this doesn't allow you to select your development environment.

BTW: The microsoft article is waaaaaaaaay out of date. So consider doing research before posting articles. ;-)

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