"View your posts" - why has it changed?

[SHS`]

the 2.0.x version as standard for 2.2.x would be better i think cause i know a lot of people who use it

FFS. Please read the posts from myself and psoTFX.

[gweilo8888]

the 2.0.x version as standard for 2.2.x would be better i think cause i know a lot of people who use it

FFS. Please read the posts from myself and psoTFX.

Did psoTFX not just say he would be quite happy to change it back as people are requesting?

He doesn't implement at all ... I do To be perfectly honest I'm quite happy to return it to what it was. I did change it because, as SHS` says the "term" didn't fit the result.

I sometimes wonder what the purpose of this forum is, when moderators here make posts like this. You're not allowed to post feature requests here, not allowed to report bugs here, not allowed to ask for even a vague approximation of when 2.2 will be released, and now apparently not allowed to question design choices here without getting a "FFS" in response - seems the only thing you're allowed to do is banter randomly (kinda pointless), or praise 2.2 incessantly (again kinda pointless because it will give the impression that any decision on how the script is coded - even a bad decision - is good).

Don't get me wrong, you guys are doing a truly stellar job on 2.2, and I will happily wait another year or more checking back every couple of weeks as I've been doing for most of the last year - but I do question the way the forum is run, because I run a similar forum myself and can't see the reasoning behind excluding your user's bug reports, suggestions and the suchlike. You don't *have* to read them, but if you allow folks to make them all the same, they'd be here if/when you wanted them and would be a lot more useful than the random banter that seems to make up most posts on this board right now.

Hoping you'll take this in the way it was intended.

[SHS`]

Did psoTFX not just say he would be quite happy to change it back as people are requesting?

If the functionality is reverted to "how it was in 2.0.x"... then it won't be called "View your posts".

Yes it's semantic hair splitting, but that's how it is.

[gweilo8888]

Did psoTFX not just say he would be quite happy to change it back as people are requesting?

If the functionality is reverted to "how it was in 2.0.x"... then it won't be called "View your posts".

Yes it's semantic hair splitting, but that's how it is.

That's all anybody is asking for. I agree completely (as have several others in this thread) that the wording should be changed, because you wouldn't be viewing your own posts.

I was merely confused what Kaya83 did to merit a "FFS" though - he didn't ask you to change it back but keep the wording the same.

Anyway, my vote is in the bag for it to be changed back to allow you to view threads you've participated in, rather than your specific posts from those threads. Seems much more useful to me...

[rabidgopher04]

A couple things. I think that perhaps it would have been easier to just change the wording and not the functionality, but perhaps I am wrong.

Also, what's FFS?

[gweilo8888]

A couple things. I think that perhaps it would have been easier to just change the wording and not the functionality, but perhaps I am wrong.

Also, what's FFS?

FFS = abbreviation of three words indicating extreme frustration, "for f**k's sake".

[rabidgopher04]

FFS = abbreviation of three words indicating extreme frustration, "for f**k's sake".

I discover a new acronym each week even though I am online at least 5-8 hours per day. Thanks!

[DoD]

Also, what's FFS?

Its a Funny Flying Saucer


The dev team have their reasons for no bug reports, feature requests or improvements to be posted here. Mainly as it is still highly developmental. Bugs, they know about, Features have a tracker for them, and improvements come in the beta stage.

[gweilo8888]

Also, what's FFS?

Its a Funny Flying Saucer


The dev team have their reasons for no bug reports, feature requests or improvements to be posted here. Mainly as it is still highly developmental. Bugs, they know about, Features have a tracker for them, and improvements come in the beta stage.

I dunno, just seems strange to me. For one thing, why spend time telling people "don't post XYZ" - just let them post it, and don't read it. If you're not allowing any of that kind of discussion, then this forum serves no purpose other than as a test-bed anyway, and does it really matter what the content of any of the posts is?

For another thing, how do they *know* that they know about the bugs, since they won't let anybody report them? They may know about some, but it stands to reason given the quantity of code that there will be bugs they don't know about, and it stands to reason given the quantity of users that some of the users will know about bugs that the coders don't. Features - well, most users wouldn't know where the tracker was, and even if they did they probably wouldn't know how to use it - hence their feature requests won't be heard at all. To me, it would make more sense to use the moderators to keep an eye on feature requests in the forum, and *shock horror* occasionally add requests to the tracker on the users' behalf if there seems to be sufficient demand to do so. Much more efficient usage of their time, rather than belittling and attacking anybody who posts a feature request.

I guess at the end of the day, the real question is - if improvements come in the beta stage, and the thoughts and opinions of the finals users are hence to be ignored at this point anyway, why even let anybody have access to this board now? The only reason I can fathom is a) as a test bed, in which case it wouldn't matter in the least what the content of the posts was, in which case why do the moderators take posts personally and rant at the users, or b) as an advertisement that phpBB is going to have a new version and it'll kick forum xyz's butt, so don't change to that forum - in which case why not give people some reasonable time frame in which to expect the script (and no, it is not unreasonable to say "first half of 2004" or "last half of 2004" - six months difference is a heck of a long time to expect people to wait. Personally, I'm expecting it to be late in the last half of 2004, if it is actually 2004 at all - and in that case, why is it so hard to say "well it definitely won't be the first half of this year, anyway".

[Draegonis]

Right, that's enough. This is not a place for you to offload your self-righteous movements against how phpBB works. If you don't like it, you know where the door it. Did you not to stop to think that they've done this before and that the developers do actually know what they're doing?
And again, if you don't like the way that SHS` conducts himself here, you know where the door is. Some people around here do an awful lot to get on the nerves of the staff. It's not surprising SHS` used "FFS" in this context.