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DoD wrote:
APTX wrote:Custom profile fields. You can create any profile field you want (eg. Age).
Why would you want to when there is Date of Birth already?
And considering custom profile fields are going to be in 2.2 and is already implanted.

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First thing wrong with “psoTFX” reply was it was rude and unprofessional. The second is that the person made a suggestion. Not a demand! If you have a procedure for logging new features for phpBB 2.2 other then this topic “2.2 New features discussion”; “psoTFX” should have politely directed the poster to that area.

I am a Webmaster and the only reason I have phpBB on my site is because of customer requests for a BB. I wanted a BB I could put out of sight and out of mind. And your teams programming accomplished that. An excellent BB that can run itself.

Two things dev the team should keep in mind: 1) I like most of your Admin or Webmaster users have no real exposure to phpBB, Vb or IPB before making a choice but they are all top rated. I my case the decision was made based on anticipated server load and ease of use from my standpoint. When you say “what the majority of users request” your stats go right out the window if the majority has not been exposed to features offered by Vb and IPB. If they have not been exposed to a feature, they can not request it because they have no knowledge it is even on another BB. 2) Vb and IPB are doing something right or they would not be so highly rated and have such user support!

PsoTFX just maybe you were having a bad hair day?

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Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut »

psoTFX is like that...no sugar coating whatsoever.

Your argument makes no sence to me...because the majority haven't used IPB/vB makes their idea of an ideal forum "go out the window"?
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area51 Board Index wrote:Discuss new features as they are added to phpBB 2.2. Give us your feedback. Don't post bug reports, feature requests, support questions or suggestions here. For suggestions please use our tracker on Sourceforge.
Maybe it's the number of times existing documentation does not get attention that musses one's hair. From time to time. :)
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mrleatherdad wrote:First thing wrong with “psoTFX” reply was it was rude and unprofessional.
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mrleatherdad wrote:First thing wrong with “psoTFX” reply was it was rude and unprofessional. The second is that the person made a suggestion. Not a demand! If you have a procedure for logging new features for phpBB 2.2 other then this topic “2.2 New features discussion”; “psoTFX” should have politely directed the poster to that area.
There is nothing requiring psoTFX to be nice in every post, or to everyone. Especially when they have to keep repeating themselves time and time and time and time again. psoTFX has pointed people to the feature request tracker before. Unfortunately, some people do get the clue or continue to argue why phpBB "must have" a particular feature.

Yes, some of those "requests" have came across as demands. "Include this feature or else I will . . ." or even the subtler, "phpBB is doomed if it doesn't have . . ." Then when Paul or some other developer says "we'll think about it," or even "we are not including it," those same requesters and a supporter or two will continue to argue the point until they feel they have somehow "won." It should be no surprise that psoTFX sometimes get a little steamed at these "brainless" posters. But if you can't deal with your feature request being rejected, then don't submit it in the first place.
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There is nothing requiring psoTFX to be nice in every post, or to everyone. Especially when they have to keep repeating themselves time and time and time and time again. psoTFX has pointed people to the feature request tracker before. Unfortunately, some people do get the clue or continue to argue why phpBB "must have" a particular feature.
I agree, you don’t have to be nice to anyone. You can be emotionally neutral in a reply and not be rude. Had he used a sentence like this first, ‘This forum is for the features that have been previously announced for release phpBB 2.2.’ And then continued with a sentence that he included in a later post “If you have specific suggestions feel free to add them to our request tracker.” Located at etc. -

Period, end, that’s all folks, no Mr. Nice guy, effective, to the point and not rude! And No 9 pages of posts on this.

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Some people may also have a bit more of a point if they posted a polite responce... and also that it made sense...

And considering these guys made phpBB what it is, i think that they know what their users want, how to make a successful forum and how to keep it successful.

IMO, they have planned all of the features i would ever want in a BB.

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Your argument makes no sence to me...because the majority haven't used IPB/vB makes their idea of an ideal forum "go out the window"?
You took what I said out of context. I did not use the phrase “their idea of an ideal forum "go out the window"? When I said ‘When you say “what the majority of users request” your stats go right out the window” I am referring to the true majority of users or you could say the silent majority of users. These are users like myself. I read the reviews, liked what I read, downloaded the software, installed it, changed the skin and haven’t looked back. That is one great piece of software from this team. I check back to see what new mods are out or to see if it has been revised. That’s what I do with all programs running on my server on a monthly basis.

Statistically with any product or service be it commercial software, retail sales or a banking product or service you would expect not to hear from about 96 percent of these people in a one-year period. These people would more then likely rate whatever on a 1 to 10 ratio as an 8.5. It meets their needs and the price was right. Happy people. The other 4 percent make inquiries, complaints and suggest features or services they would like. They are the vocal minority.

Now with open source you have the same situation but harder to define. Say you have had 20,000 downloads (just a figure) since the last major release three years ago. Does anyone know how many phpBB are up and running of any flavor? If your not running on going automated email feedback surveys with new users and don’t have a exit survey in the uninstall program, I don’t think you have any near real figures to work with. But you probably have more like 35% in the Vocal Minority. And they really participate mainly in a constructive manner.

OK lets use a 50% drop rate (I used that because you show 13,759 members of this board of which 8,635 have never made a post and of those 83% did not report having a Website. I think if Admin ran a filter on members that have not logged in with in the last 90 days, you would probably lose 70 % of the membership and get back a nice chuck of disk space).
So that leaves 10,000 phpBB up and running worldwide. Now that would give you about 7,000 or so in the Silent Majority camp or happy campers. The software does what they want almost, it's free, the price was right its free, they have other problems, its free. And no one has contacted them to see what they like or dislike about the software and it’s free.

That is what I meant about your stats go out the window when I had referred to the remark made by others a couple of times in the treads “features are based on the request of the majority of the users.” The Silent Majority of the users have never been asked for any type of feedback.

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At this moment in time I don't need to read this kind of stuff ... we're done.

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