Quick Reply

[SiegeSapper]

Is it possible to extend viewtopic.php with an Quick Reply form ??

[psoTFX]

Yes, it's completely possible ... though it's really only a change to the viewtopic template. There will be no "quick reply" form in the default subSilver style though.

[haravikk]

Bah, is there still going to be just the subsilver style? It is stylish, but you must admit is now a bit dated.

I'd like it if the basic phpBB 2.2 download came with several different themes

Which reminds me, I had a tiny suggestion / queiry regarding themes, hopefully I understood the style changes correctly:

Since themes are now going to have a .css stylesheet and an 'image set' I was wondering, would it be possible to give a theme interchangeable stylesheets and corresponding image sets? For example, subSilver could have "red.css" and "blue.css" with their corresponding image sets "red.set" and "blue.set". When a theme is installed the admin can choose which "schemes" become available, when a user chooses a theme the page they are on reloads and an additional drop-down list appears listing the schemes enabled for the selecting theme.
This way the same template files can be used, but users can choose the colour scheme they wish to use (and since most colour schemes would require new images then the images change as well).

[SHS`]

If a style was though out "well", it (same template files, picking up a different extrenal CSS file) can be done in phpBB2.0.x. Paul's never release PSO/Euclid template and my asciiCascade are examples of such.

2.2.x will let you pick imagesets, indipendantly of templates.

[JHS_Phantom]

Why aren't you going to have Quick Reply? It certainly is more useful than this way of posting. And it would bring more competition to vBulletin. At least you could have (just a suggestion) an Quick Reply that either admins can choose to ahve on or off, or users can choose to have on or off individually. That would be a great feature.

Also, where can I download 2.2, as you speak of?

[Draegonis]

They're not having it, because they, in their wisdom, have decided against it. I think it's a good idea too, but i respect that decision. It's their software, and if they think that something should not be added, they should be able to state so without being challeneged at every turn.

And http://phpbb.sf.net/cvs" target="_blank for phpBB 2.2 pre-alpha d/l's (i think). Not for the feint hearted

[Kuma]

Why aren't you going to have Quick Reply? It certainly is more useful than this way of posting. And it would bring more competition to vBulletin. At least you could have (just a suggestion) an Quick Reply that either admins can choose to ahve on or off, or users can choose to have on or off individually. That would be a great feature.

I agree with him, it's stupid to let some things that could be easily added for people to create mods out of them. If you're working on a new release, if you're asking people what they want, if you want to compete with the other bulletin boards, then simply release a pack with the features [a. the developers created, thought of. b. with things that US the users want]

If it's so easy to create a mod out of it, then why don't you just implement the damn thing and release it ? MODS= Ideas of users to further maximize the capabilities of a product, to meet SPECIFIC needs the user may have.

This has been requested by oh so many freaking people already. This is not one user desire, this is a desire most of the community have. Is that so hard to see?

They're not having it, because they, in their wisdom, have decided against it. I think it's a good idea too, but i respect that decision. It's their software, and if they think that something should not be added, they should be able to state so without being challeneged at every turn.

True at some extent, yet pretty much sounds like a "sucking up". Now don't get your pants in a hurry, let me elaborate.

Yes, they are the creators of the board and yes it is their call not to have it. But if they are trying to do something for the people [as psoTFX said behemently in a post], they simply need to please them. This is not the only bulletin board available, this one is just free.

Example of this:

Hamburgers Place 1 - X Hamburger - FREE
- Greasy Tables, they don't get cleaned often.
- Semi-Decent Bathroom
- Hamburgers is not served in trays, just in a paper bag, no logo.
- Fries are too greasy

Hamburgers Place 2 - McDonalds - $5
- Nice and neat tables
- Shiny Bathroom
- Hamburgers are served in boxes, then in trays, with logo. And in the case of a take-out, on box as well, and in a strong paper bag with the logo too
- Fries are greasy enough and excellent [we all know how they are ]

Are you going to take number 1 just because it's free? No, I don't think you would, if you have a sense of what a "nice looking and healthy meal" is. So perhaps yes, Place 1 will have its people because it's free, they can't pay, they think the food is decent enough without thinking about the looks of it or the place, but you'll have another portion of market that will go to place 2, because they have needs and they see them there. Isn't the point trying to reach the greatest ammount of people to use phpbb? Or I'm just mislead about the trash they sometimes talk about the competence? Because they do have. Or vBulletin just created those registered users out of the blue? Nah.

It reduces to the fact that this is their board, yes, but WE are the people who use it. A good leader is measured by his/her ability to listen and PLEASE those who follow them. Same applies here, they need to listen to the users, and implement what they want, and what we want. And I close saying, QUICK REPLY that's something people has been asking for a LONG time.

Yes, I'll still get the release wether they implement it or not, and I'll still find the mod and put it whenever gets released, but that's not really the point, or the way it should be, now...is it ?

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[Draegonis]

The reason i said that, is that i've been around here long enough to know that when psoTFX says he doesn't want to add X feature, it is, for the most time, for a very good reason, and he is highly unlikley to change his mind. And the difference between the free option and the paid option aint 5 bucks, but a few hundred of 'em. As he has said before, it may be a board for the people, but if they included each and every feature request that people wanted, it would be a mess. They've got to say "no" at some point in the game.
You never know, this may be the one occasion where he turns round and changes his mind - you know how totally unpredictable programmers are..
/me legs it

[psoTFX]

/me doesn't intend changing his mind at this time ... he also notes that long posts complaining about his not doing something won't change his mind at all

[Lugie]

Adding things like this, though, creates the need for more checks and slower performance. If every feature is put in, then the board gets really slow checking to see if X control is enabled by Y admin in only Z forums...

As far as I can tell, phpBB focuses on speed and user friendliness. All these features slow performance down, as well as overwhelm users with all the options. That isn't really friendly.

So, in my opinion, the development team is doing the greatest good for the greatest amount of people by making it quick and easy.

On the other side, this is a very significantly asked for feature, and is probably one of the few features that could actually make it into one of the next few big releases...

My stance: "Why not?" It's one feature that a lot of people would love.