PHPBB3-10418 - WYSIWYG Editor/Rich Text Editor

[brunoais]

Not only that, the BBCode plugin (from what I understood) is the same kind as SKE, including no source code mode with buttons working.

[wGEric]

All I see is "Buy Redactor". I'm assuming this is probably not GPL compatible.

From the pieces below it sounds like you can't fork Redactor which could be an issue. Probably better to steer clear.

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Permitted Use

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Edit: just found this

Can I use Redactor in my project, which is published under GPL, MIT, BSD, or other open-source/copyleft license?
Yes, go ahead! You just need to purchase the OEM license. No additional fees will be applied and there are no special terms or conditions, until Redactor is properly "linked" in your software.

However, keep in mind that Redactor is not an open-source product. It is proprietary commercial copyrighted software and we do not allow it's distribution under any open-source licenses. Think about Redactor as if it was a paid proprietary extension for your project.

So it would have to be something that if someone forks phpBB it couldn't include the Redactor code.

[Volksdevil]

Excuse my ignorance, but why can't we stick with what we currently have? What is it that needs/HAS to be changed exactly?

[brunoais]

The problem is that many forum users don't really like the idea that they can't see the outcome of what they are writing and being able to edit directly in the outcome they want.

They want the word/libreoffice/openoffice look and feel when they are writing a post... WYSIWYG plugins have been very popular recently so... We are just left with that option as there's no real reason not to have it.

[Master_Cylinder]

Many as in? I've never heard anyone complain about the composing process and/or request a wysiwyg editor in any forum I'm involved with...

Bloat could be a reason? Overhead perhaps? I'd imagine the output would be better than the old wysiwyg html editors that used to be popular (for about a week) but I can think of reasons not to have it. Whether the demand warrants the resources is not up to me...

[imkingdavid]

It's popular enough to warrant, at the very least, a 21 page topic here on area51. I have also seen numerous requests for it, and there are multiple MODs either in development or in the MODDB.

I'm not saying that there aren't things that are a higher priority, and in fact this is in limbo until the BBCode parser is redone/replaced (see: s9e/TextFormatter), but this is something that many people want and will likely be in a future version of the software (though definitely not 3.1).

[brunoais]

I'm working on placing it on phpBB 3.2. It is paused because I'm waiting for SCE's owner.

If there's no answer from him for too long... I'll have to take over and work on it until he's back. I just hope he hasn't abandoned it.

[Meis2M]

i think tinymce and ckeditor is powerful than SCE and update and support many years.

[brunoais]

TInyMCE not as much. CKE is, undoubtedly, for HTML editing, a really powerful tool. But the source code mode is too weak as it behaves just as a textarea.
If you know a way to make it so that in source code mode it does not behave as a "just" a textarea and have the buttons actually working in harmony, then I'll be glad to change my mind to CKE. Otherwise, I'll stick to SCE as I have been for some months.

[Meis2M]

so what are you waiting for merge SCE in phpBB 3.1 ?