Suspecting RC2 Very Soon...

[me_09]

Think on june release rc2

[Lastof]

My brain hurts.

[Nicholas the Italian]

My brain hurts.

Solution: head amputation.

[Lastof]

My brain hurts.

Solution: head amputation.

Meany

[Nicholas the Italian]

Meany

Uhm... /me goes and takes a look... ah yeah, that's just me!

[code reader]

The internal roadmap plans on releasing the first beta version of RC2 on June 13th. There will be at least 5 betas, with 1 or 2 months between each beta. So we should reach RC1 of RC2 somwhere around spring next year.

this may be viewed as a lame joke, but it raises a serious question:
is there an intent of releasing patches for the RC?
my vote is: yes (i know it's not a democracy. it's just a figure of speech).

reasoning:
one mechanism in olympus which is almost completely untested is the "Update" mechanism.
it was introduced, i believe, in beta-4, and the only time it was even remotely tested was in the beta-4 -> beta-5 upgrade. it was barely functional at this stage, and, ttbomk, very few actual successful upgrades really happened.
for various reasons, the beta-5->rc1 upgrade was never introduced, so the upgrade mechanism was never really tested.
creating and distributing some RC-1 patches (aka "service packs") will give the upgrader a run for it's money.
in addition, my guess is that phpbb group will follow tradition, in that RC stages are typically significantly longer than beta stages. the beta stages were typically 2-3 months each (except one 2-weeks runt cycle), and it's a fair guess that each RC stage will be ~4 months. without service packs, it means that bug fixes will not be seriously tested for months after their writing.

if you look at the bug statistics, you'll find an interesting fact:
significantly more than one half of the (real) bugs reported and fixed during beta-5 were a result of bad fixes to previous bugs, rather than bugs that were originally in the core package.
during the last half of most beta cycles, most of the significant bug reports were about the CVS version, because the beta version was practically irrelevant.

taking these two facts together - untested upgrader and the fact that phpbb team tends to do less than stellar job on unit-testing of bug-fixes - they both point to the same direction: we need official patches, or service packs, during each RC cycle.

[Nicholas the Italian]

in addition, my guess is that phpbb group will follow tradition, in that RC stages are typically significantly longer than beta stages. the beta stages were typically 2-3 months each (except one 2-weeks runt cycle), and it's a fair guess that each RC stage will be ~4 months.

I thought quite the opposite, i.e. RC being shorter than beta - after all it's "just" bug squashing, while during betas there's a lot of other work involved.
What "tradition" are you referring to? 5-year-old 6-RC phpBB2?

On a different note, link underlining is not shown in the last line of messages if there's also a smilie. This only applies to Firefox. Would a 1px padding/margin solve the issue? Worth a shot in the bug tracker? <== look, no line

[Lastof]

On a different note, link underlining is not shown in the last line of messages if there's also a smilie. This only applies to Firefox. Would a 1px padding/margin solve the issue? Worth a shot in the bug tracker? <== look, no line

You sure?

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Looks like it's underlined to me.

[Nicholas the Italian]

Yep, although it looks more like a Firefox rendering issue.

Normal, big & bigger font, on Firefox 2.0.0.3, WinXP:

Here you are

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Also, with IE I see your signature like this:

What?!?

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[Thatbitextra]

It's already in the bug tracker: http://www.phpbb.com/bugs/phpbb3/ticket ... et_id=9884