Community moderation

[soundboy]

Plus, as I said, you'd get a very limited number of posts at first. If you have 5 votes to spend during the day, you're gonna use them to rate only extreme posts that cause an impression on you, in a good or bad way. So you're not going to be rating every single thing you read.

[Ciacomix]

Well, for those interested I have been modding phpbb3 with features like karma and digging. The phpbb3 developers are correct in saying this is an abused system and the whole idea of a forum is so everyone can be heard equally.

[Highway of Life]

Ciacomix, as was mentioned before,

1. it's not a good idea to give "negetive" karma.
   • Only positive karma should be given.
2. (IMO) it should be based on user post count, user time registered, and total karma.
   1. 1 point for each 10 points of karma received.
   2. 1 point for each 100 user total posts
   3. 1 point for each year registered
   • for instance, say a user has:
   • 122 karma
   • 566 posts
   • been registered for less than one year.
     
     The karma give would be:
   • 12 points for total karma
   • 5 more points for posts.
   • 0 more points for being registered less than one year.
3. A user would only be able to give 10 posts of karma every 24 hours.

Do this make sense?

[ElbertF]

You're rewarding spammers and inactive posters with this way to complex system.

Perhaps staff members should be the only ones with the abillity to vote (+ and -). Maybe if one has a certain amount of positive points given by a mod or admin, the user will gain the abillity to vote too (more with a higher karma).

Well, for those interested I have been modding phpbb3 with features like karma and digging.

Very nice (the flat layout too, but it's a bit dark), I'm interested to see how this evolves.. *Registering*.

[soundboy]

I do think it would be a good idea to give negative votes. It would help identify and eventually disuade trolls, spammers, and just plain lame posters. Or, even better, motivate them to become better posters.

About post count, IMO, it should never be taken into account for positive points. Why would it? Think of it, there's no merit at all in post count. Rewarding that only encourages dumb quick posting.

[d4rkst4r123]

If your going to have a karma system, you need to have both. The objective of karma is for other users to see if a ceratin user has a negative attitude or a positive attitude. Having only positive is like rewarding everyone for no reason. Have both negative and positive but make sure you cant turn a users karma so low he has no privliges.

[Highway of Life]

Hmm... some of you are still missing the point.

Spambot, how does it reward spambots? It can only be used by registered users, and a user with less than 10 karma himself cannot increase the karma of another user.
AND
A user can only use the [+] karma 10 times (TOTAL) every 24 hours, so it's not possible to overuse it.

The idea of Karma is NOT, I repeat, NOT to either increase, NOR decrease user priviladges, though I suppose you could add support for that.

If people don't like what you said, or the way you posted, you would not get any positive feedback, the idea is to post such quality posts, that you get good Karma.
If you posted something wrong, your post would be reported anyways, so there really is no reason to make a negative feedback UNLESS you really are using the Karma feature to do Community moderation, which, as was mentioned before, is an overall bad idea, save some unique instances for specific forums.

[ElbertF]

Spambot, how does it reward spambots?

I never mentioned bots, and I wasn't talking about commercial comment spam. With "spam" I mean useless posts which no one is waiting for (slowchat, single smiley posts, double posts etc.). If you'd apply your system here, the actual developers would probably have a much lower karma then a lot of trolls. Does that me we should take their replies less seriously?

[dhn]

The objective of karma is for other users to see if a ceratin user has a negative attitude or a positive attitude.

Do you have an example a community where this system is working?

[Highway of Life]

I never mentioned bots, and I wasn't talking about commercial comment spam. With "spam" I mean useless posts which no one is waiting for (slowchat, single smiley posts, double posts etc.). If you'd apply your system here, the actual developers would probably have a much lower karma then a lot of trolls. Does that me we should take their replies less seriously?

Ah! I did a quick-read.

Hmm... I don't quite understand the logic... it could be me, or we are thinking of it two differant ways.
In the board in which we use a Karma-type system, the Admins, Devs and Mods actually have more Karma than everyone else... so I don't see why this would be a problem... ???

But what's your idea of a Karma system?