Complete redesign of the update process?

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Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by Stringence » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:44 pm

Hello,

The current update process is manual, very time consuming, and consists of no less than 15 steps, that must be performed in exactly the correct order.
In simple words: to manage an update, one must be either a programmer, or a database expert, or both.

Anyone who knows when this will be redesigned? A simple "Update"-button in ACP would be enough.

You must understand that most of phpBB-users aren't programmers, nor have databasing as a hobby.

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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by CHItA » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:52 pm

You can upload the files of the version you update to and then run database_update.php, so could you elaborate on "15 steps"?

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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by 3Di » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:42 am

CHItA wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:52 pm
You can upload the files of the version you update to and then run database_update.php, so could you elaborate on "15 steps"?
Hi, since 3.0.2-b2 the database updater can be run also from the cli or web (a simple button there in ACP that does that job could be added though). That's indeed a good feature, no more need to get/upload the install folder in order to run it, in some support cases especially.

What the OP I guess meant is to have this sort of facilities also for upgrading the board.
That seems already been done too, if I correctly understood..
CLI updater - A new command is available to update the board
https://wiki.phpbb.com/Release_Highlights/3.2.0-b2

About the 15 steps, I don't know.
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by Ger » Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:50 am

The current "automatic" update method (merging changes if any) was very good and powerful in the days of 3.0.x, but since modifications are discouraged it's not really useful any more for most boards running 3.1.x. Since phpBB now mostly deals with unmodified installations, updating can be made easier.
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by 3Di » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:07 am

Added as a feature request for 3.3.0-a1
https://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB3-14518
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by RMcGirr83 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:42 am

Ger wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:50 am
The current "automatic" update method (merging changes if any) was very good and powerful in the days of 3.0.x, but since modifications are discouraged it's not really useful any more for most boards running 3.1.x. Since phpBB now mostly deals with unmodified installations, updating can be made easier.
Except for those users who insist on modifying the core code to get modifications that haven't been ported to extensions onto their forums.
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by Ger » Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:22 pm

3Di wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:07 am
Added as a feature request for 3.3.0-a1
https://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB3-14518
Thanks!
RMcGirr83 wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:42 am
Except for those users who insist on modifying the core code to get modifications that haven't been ported to extensions onto their forums.
That's why I wrote "most" boards, not all. ;)
The automatic updater doesn't have to be removed of course, it could be kept for those boards who need them. In the long term, it might be deprecated/abandoned if statistics prove it isn't used (much) anymore.
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by RMcGirr83 » Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:38 pm

Seems we are comparing to wordpress updating here.
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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by John P » Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:03 pm

There are still a lot of changes in core as I experience.
Events and functions not in core, maybe asked but still not in versions of phpbb.
It's not wise to stop automatic updater!

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Re: Complete redesign of the update process?

Post by 3Di » Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:35 am

John P wrote:
Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:03 pm
There are still a lot of changes in core as I experience.
Events and functions not in core, maybe asked but still not in versions of phpbb.
It's not wise to stop automatic updater!
We are talking about an 3.3.x new feature.. ;)
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