[3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

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[3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by 3Di » Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:40 am

Hi,
if I posted into the wrong forum please move, thank you.

It would be nice and useful to add a new feature:
Topic description, as per the attached image
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I am open mind.

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by Nicofuma » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:53 am

We are trying to simplify the work flow about this kind of requests. So you should create a new ticket (and maybe label it as beginner as it shouldn't be difficult to implement)
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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by 3Di » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:01 am

Done https://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB3-14517

Unfortunately my account "3Di" still I can't use it on the tracker, I used "threedi" instead.

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by Rhino.Freak » Fri May 27, 2016 5:00 pm

I support this :) A simple option to enable or disable this in ACP and we're all set.

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by Senky » Sat May 28, 2016 5:42 pm

I still don't get it. Why don't we just aim to have core as small as possible and leave such features for extension writers. This is really a not feature that would be requested by or used by majority of boards...

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by DavidIQ » Sat May 28, 2016 6:38 pm

I've never needed to give a topic description for anything. Who would need to do that and who would even use that? Would be like having to write a post and a mini post at the same time. This has extension written all over it...
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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by Rhino.Freak » Sat May 28, 2016 7:56 pm

Senky wrote:
Sat May 28, 2016 5:42 pm
I still don't get it. Why don't we just aim to have core as small as possible and leave such features for extension writers. This is really a not feature that would be requested by or used by majority of boards...
While I agree with you it's also true that additions of something this small is would likely not even change the size by even a KB.
Also yes extensions is probably the way to go but then comes the question "who will make it?" it always gets dragged on, maybe for feature requests like these phpbb should make some official extensions.
Also one more problem is that extensions aren't really shown to users unless they look for one. There should be some friendly tips and stuff in admin panel that suggest extensions but that's for another discussion.

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by Senky » Sat May 28, 2016 8:16 pm

Rhino.Freak wrote:
Sat May 28, 2016 7:56 pm
While I agree with you it's also true that additions of something this small is would likely not even change the size by even a KB.
It's not about filesize, but about complexity of the code. All 3.x versions suffer from the fact, that they inherit code from old 3.0 versions, which is, admit it, architectural disaster of procedural programming. The reason for core to be smaller is to get out of it. To make code cleaner and then and only after then such perks can be added without any trouble.

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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by 3Di » Mon May 30, 2016 7:32 pm

Senky wrote:
Sat May 28, 2016 8:16 pm
It's not about filesize, but about complexity of the code.
Nicofuma wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:53 am
So you should create a new ticket (and maybe label it as beginner as it shouldn't be difficult to implement)
That's easy to implement, the screenshsot I posted belongs to my Dev Environment.
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Sat May 28, 2016 8:16 pm
All 3.x versions suffer from the fact, that they inherit code from old 3.0 versions, which is, admit it, architectural disaster of procedural programming.
At those times the main coder was Acydburn, that inherited the phpBB2 version and did his best (most of the code belongs to him), if there were more coders like him that spent years on Olympus maybe we could have got a better code? Who can say that? :)
And this time I offer you a pearl, those guys that did the Security Audit for Olympus, unfortunately forgot the scissors into the body of the patient, as a matter of fact there is a known SEC bug since 3.0.0, fixed just some versions ago. So now please we shouldn't speak about others' coding skills. ;)
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The reason for core to be smaller is to get out of it. To make code cleaner and then and only after then such perks can be added without any trouble.
This is a feature request for 3.3.x, is this gap of time enough?
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Sat May 28, 2016 6:38 pm
I've never needed to give a topic description for anything. Who would need to do that and who would even use that? Would be like having to write a post and a mini post at the same time. This has extension written all over it...
The idea comes from Categories Hierarchy by Pierre (pthrijk), a phpBB2 fork, at those times. Somebody here can easily recall of this, Rich?

Let's say about the support forum.. how many Topic titles have we seen like "help", "doesn't works", I want to", etc.. giving the opportunity to describe the reasons why somebody is askin for help will be nice and usefull.

Just a scenario, I have a lot though.

The Topic description will show (in this my feature request) only in viewforum, search, topic starters.
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Re: [3.3.x][Feature] Topic description

Post by RMcGirr83 » Tue May 31, 2016 1:41 am

3Di wrote:
Mon May 30, 2016 7:32 pm
The idea comes from Categories Hierarchy by Pierre (pthrijk), a phpBB2 fork, at those times. Somebody here can easily recall of this, Rich?
Yes I remember that quite well and Pierre (aka pthirik) taught me quite a bit of what I know now. In fact, I great deal of how phpBB evolved was due to that mod (eg, subforums).

Not sure if anyone would use the topic description though, eg, I would simply use the subject title (which is how it should be).
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