OK, but "Settings" isn't any shorter than "Controls".VSE+ wrote:I'd go so far as to say renaming them:Pony99CA wrote:As for the verbosity, we could solve a little of that by using "Controls" instead of "Control Panel". That will save five characters per panel type.
User Control Panel => My Account (or My Settings)
Moderator Control Panel => Moderator Tools
Administration Control Panel => Admin Settings
But "Settings" is shorter than "User Control Panel", and much better than "Controls".Pony99CA wrote:OK, but "Settings" isn't any shorter than "Controls".VSE+ wrote:I'd go so far as to say renaming them:Pony99CA wrote:As for the verbosity, we could solve a little of that by using "Controls" instead of "Control Panel". That will save five characters per panel type.
User Control Panel => My Account (or My Settings)
Moderator Control Panel => Moderator Tools
Administration Control Panel => Admin Settings
Steve
I disagree -- "Settings" could just be a view of your current settings; "Controls" implies, well, control. Also, "settings" implies that you can set options, but you can do more (like add and delete forums, for example); I think that's why "Moderator Tools" sounds better than "Moderator Settings". But, really, it's semantics and I think most people would figure it out.keith10456 wrote:... And "Settings" is more explanatory than "Controls".
UCP - I believe this is the only one VSE said should be settings which makes absolute sense as they can no do anything other than settings here really. so "Settings", "Profile Settings" sounds plausible to mePony99CA wrote:I disagree -- "Settings" could just be a view of your current settings; "Controls" implies, well, control. Also, "settings" implies that you can set options, but you can do more (like add and delete forums, for example); I think that's why "Moderator Tools" sounds better than "Moderator Settings". But, really, it's semantics and I think most people would figure it out.keith10456 wrote:... And "Settings" is more explanatory than "Controls".
The other reason for using "Controls" is that the current items are called "Control Panels", so keeping "Control" in there somewhere may make more sense to users of phpBB 3.0.
Steve
I agree that it's strange. I think I understand why it is done this way (because "new" messages really means "unread" messages and so they may not actually be "new") but I also expect new messages to be listed in notifications, so having two things give the same information doesn't seem right.DocSommer wrote: I,m seeing now two "o new whatever" notifications giving me no information in this area 51s header, another step backwards for two reasons imho. The first reason is already explained in the initial post and the second reason: Why trying to establish a notification center but exlude certain notification events out of it. At least it could be arranged together cosmetical-wise like [X new notifications / Y new messages] - or just a single count with more information on mouseover.
To clarify, "new" is message you have not yet seen in your inbox. They lose their "new" status when you view the inbox. "Unread" is a message you have not yet opened to see its content. You can have messages that are not new but are unread.Frug wrote:(because "new" messages really means "unread" messages and so they may not actually be "new")
If you don't want the duplication, you can turn off receiving notifications for PMs by going to the notifications settings page and unchecking the box next to "Someone sends you a private message".Frug wrote:If I have to manually dismiss a notification to make it go away, it means I've acknowledged (and perhaps chosen to ignore) the information, so I don't need new or unread messages to be listed.
"Controls" seem appropriate for tech guys/gals like us here but for the average person visiting/joining a website, "Settings" is more appropriate and would make more sense to them.Pony99CA wrote:I disagree -- "Settings" could just be a view of your current settings; "Controls" implies, well, control. Also, "settings" implies that you can set options, but you can do more (like add and delete forums, for example); I think that's why "Moderator Tools" sounds better than "Moderator Settings". But, really, it's semantics and I think most people would figure it out.keith10456 wrote:... And "Settings" is more explanatory than "Controls".
The other reason for using "Controls" is that the current items are called "Control Panels", so keeping "Control" in there somewhere may make more sense to users of phpBB 3.0.
Steve
