No problem, you too, always nice to have a discussion for more than 2 posts that doesn't descend into "well you're just a poo-head" kind of arguments.Superdeboer wrote: @Klors:
Firstly I have to thank you for your patience in responding.
I feel this may be the crux of our difference of opinion.Superdeboer wrote:/me applauds for Mvastango. You really see my problem dude.Mvastango wrote:The fact that it's daylight savings does have relevance. If I live in an area that observes DST, and it's currently the summer now, for all posts made in the winter, the time will be show to have been posted 1 hour off from the time they were actually posted. This is because my current GMT-Offset is applied to all posts uniformly, regardless of whether they were made in or out of DST.
The problem is not the difference between timezones or the difference between GMT and my timezone. The problem is the difference between summer and winter, because in summer we have DST, so *on top of all timezone things* there comes one hour extra to get to the real and correct time.
...In my opinion you don't. Going to DST means for me continuing to use the same timezone, but adding an extra hour to it, *only in the summer*. As long as you base your time displaying on GMT, wich does not add that extra hour only in summer (it wouldn't be possible, because it differs from country to country), you will never have the effect that I'm aiming at. Unless you do some calculations that use custom information about when DST takes effect and stuff.All you are doing when you go to daylight savings time is changing timezone, why would it be any different.
I live in the UK, we work on GMT for half of the year and we have a daylight savings time called British Summer Time. BST is a different timezone to GMT, it's GMT+1. Which is a different timezone to the Central European Time which is also GMT+1 i believe.
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-z ... /index.htm
In case I lack credibility. And they seem to list our standard time as Western European Time/GMT jointly. As well as UTC.
I'm pretty certain that most of the USA's timezones work in the same way, too (I think there might be a State that doesn't). EST (Eastern Standard Time) = GMT-5, EDT (Eastern Daylight Time) = GMT-4... same goes for Central, Mountain and Pacific, afaik.
I'd show the Unix timestamp on my board but then noone would understand it.
So, hence the reason I just see them all as different timezones. I've played online games with friends from the USA, UK and Continental Europe for a few years now so I've grown used to timezone thinking. It's so important to get it exact for us to avoid missing each other by hours that I don't really like wooly-thinking where time is concerned
I wish you luck and good fortune. I do run an internationally used board, yes. So, no, I probably wouldn't use it.Superdeboer wrote:I'll try to figure out what I can create for myself. Then I'll try to tune it to make it as universally useful as possible. When it's done, I'll post it somewhere as a MOD. I hope you'll be there to criticise it at that time. Maybe I can persuade you when you see it fully functioning.
But like I said in my early posts: when you're running a board with users from different timezones, it's clear to see that my problem is a minor one for you and it's more important for you to give the users the ability to set at least their different timezones correctly. In that case my problem is not your problem and you won't profit from the thing I'm planning to write.