Suspecting RC1 very soon!

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Re: Suspecting RC1 very soon!

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and give a link to a zip or rar file that contains the text file thats has the answer for the number the user inputs, hopefully that should keep spambots away for a while.

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Kevin Clark wrote: Mmm....

But, from my very limited knowledge of looking at both the VIP code and the security question code MODs, I would have thought a simple question/statement and answer, which are easily configurable in the admin panel, would give the end users and infinite number of anti spam options in the way you word it or where you place the location of the 'right' answer.

I would guess that if a bot finds a box to tick, they'll auto tick it anyway. The humanizer MOD was beaten pretty quickly when I installed it. I got the feeling they found that the default 'no' option didn't let them register so they just tried the other option available which did. A required tick box may well go the same way.




As I understand from a friend in the SEO business, if your forum is search engine listed, the first visitor is often human. The appropriate responses are then loaded in to an auto submit program.

Therefore, unless you can periodically reconfigure your defenses you will get spam.
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I wouldn't say search engine bots are the problem, its other spam bots that cause porn links and such like, not google, yahoo etc.
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NeilUK wrote: I wouldn't say search engine bots are the problem, its other spam bots that cause porn links and such like, not google, yahoo etc.


That is not what I said.

What I said was that some spammers take advantage of your listing in the search engines to find you then use an auto submit program to post spam.
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Re: Suspecting RC1 very soon!

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That doesn't sound right. Why go to the trouble to having a person going to every page if an bot can do it.
The bots assume everyone has a standard registration page and so they just fill in the relevant bits. The reason things like the VIP MOD work so well is that they add a new field and the bots cannot read what they're supposed to do with it so the registration attempt fails.
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And just change the question and answer every month or even every week. If it was in the ACP, it would be really easy to do often.

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Kevin Clark wrote: That doesn't sound right. Why go to the trouble to having a person going to every page if an bot can do it.
The bots assume everyone has a standard registration page and so they just fill in the relevant bits. The reason things like the VIP MOD work so well is that they add a new field and the bots cannot read what they're supposed to do with it so the registration attempt fails.


The spam bot mod filters out the bots very nicely, and we never see those spam links posted. Yet we still get a small amount of spam (about 3% of posts) and the above explanation is how I was told they are getting through.
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A generic challenge question (What do you see in the picture) that has an unlimited number of responses and is adaptable to each forum would give as many possible responses as there are forums.

You can make your image and response as simple or as complex as you like. As long as the Admin is able to set the correct response then any image can be used. For example: An Equestrian forum can use horse related images, an entomology forum can use insect related images, Star Trek related forums could use a image of Picard; the possibilities are limitless.


thespirit wrote: And just change the question and answer every month or even every week. If it was in the ACP, it would be really easy to do often.


You are right imho, If the Admin could change the picture and answer whenever needed through the ACP it would be very easy.

Questions: Is this pratical? Is it already in a mod? Do you see a down side?
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Great idea drew. I would be more willing to use that than captcha.

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thespirit wrote: Great idea drew. I would be more willing to use that than captcha.


Thanks: D I'm pretty sure it's too late to get the developers attention for consideration, but if it's doable maybe a mod could be written.
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