code reader wrote: personally, i think it will not be the best thing to do to wait until the rc for the release of the converter.
iiuc, the rationale for this is to discourage people from using the beta version for a live system. otoh, this causes difficulties for people who wish to test with large ammounts of data, as they need to generate this data (users and posts) artifically, instead of using readily existing real data.
My personal plans with regard to this are to make a copy of my database and upgrade it to Olympus on a test forum on a separate server. I have a test forum already that only my fellow admins know about. Once the release candidate comes out, I will set up the separate server and allow the users in the inner sanctum to pound on it. Except for the separate server part (I do my own hosting and I'm in the middle of a hardware replacement), I expect that will be the route many admins choose.
To the dev team - add my voice to those that have said they want a supported way to NOT import permissions from the old board. There are so many improvements in the default permission set that I do not want to miss out on them by having my v2 permissions overwrite them.
code reader wrote: i also think that providing an upgrade script from beta-2 to beta-3 will help the beta process. many good testers remained for too long with beta-1 after beta-2 was released because such a script from 1 to 2 was not available, and were lost to the project as testers.
I'm content with the dev team plans in this regard, and with the idea that the converter will not be available until rc1. From all evidence I've seen on area51, the beta2 release has resulted in tons of bugfixes and changes. The extent of these changes will require a new beta release. If beta3 results in extensive changes, it means there will be a beta4. You can't call it a release candidate until you have major confidence that your API and database schema do not need further tweaking. If we want a bug-free upgrade script, the dev team must minimize the number of scenarios it has to correctly recognize and handle.
If there are no database or API changes required when the last beta version transitions to rc1, the dev team just might allow upgrades from the last beta as well. I wlll not count on that happening, so I will not attempt to use any beta release as my live forum. Even though I will probably allow my users to actively use a converted copy when rc1 comes out, that will not be my live forum either. I do not expect to be using Olympus live until at least one or two releases after gold.
p.s. - About the term "gold" in software releases. I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so I thought I would. In the early days of CD burning, you couldn't get blanks in any color other than gold. When your product was ready to be mass-produced, you would burn a final version of the install CD called the Gold Master because of the color of the disc. That is what the manufacturing plant uses to make the plate that stamps out mass-produced discs, which at the time were always silver.