[RFC] Use password_hash

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Re: [RFC] Use password_hash

Post by paulus » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:16 am

Nuisance Value wrote:Putting that up in large letters with a count down, i.e. 15 seconds before the user is allowed to move on to the next stage of his/her registration, would avoid unpleasantness latter on...
And would mean a lot users wont register as they dont want to wait for 15 seconds.
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Re: [RFC] Use password_hash

Post by Arty » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:02 am

Nuisance Value wrote:Putting that up in large letters with a count down, i.e. 15 seconds before the user is allowed to move on to the next stage of his/her registration, would avoid unpleasantness latter on...
Why? To make them read text they don't want to read? That won't help anyone. People won't read that wall of text just like they don't read agreements when installing any software, 15 sec delay will only annoy them and give them plenty of time to reconsider registering.

99% of users (made up number based on my experience) don't even want to know about password hashing. There is no point in showing that text.
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Re: [RFC] Use password_hash

Post by imkingdavid » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:59 am

How about a little (?) icon with mouseover text that contains password complexity requirements and information about password storage? A time limit I agree is not a good idea. I'm not likely to register at a place that makes me wait, especially something like 15 seconds.
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Re: [RFC] Use password_hash

Post by Pony99CA » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:30 pm

Let's not be as verbose as Nuisance Value suggests or have a countdown timer. That would only have, well, nuisance value. :D

The registration E-mail sent (at least if user activation is on) includes the following (emphasis added by me):
Your password has been securely stored in our database and cannot be retrieved. In the event that it is forgotten, you will be able to reset it using the email address associated with your account.
If you want to move that up or reword it, you can easily change the letter text to do that.

To remember passwords, get a good password manager (I use eWallet, but there's also LastPass and KeePass, I believe).

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Re: [RFC] Use password_hash

Post by naderman » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:09 pm

We are replacing password hashing with a patch based on the proposal [RFC]More secure password hashing, so I'm moving this one to rejected RFCs.

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