[RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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[RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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Problem
A number of end users won't necessarily know what abbreviations like ACP or UCP mean straight out of the box.

Suggested Solution:
Replace current instances of ACP and UCP (and any other abbreviations that are found) with their full expanded form.

Related Previous Changes:
Changing CAPTCHA Settings to Spambot Countermeasures
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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+1 for the idea, but
-1 for the chosen approach.

I.e. substituting the acronym "CAPTCHA" with the vague words "spambot countermeasures" will help those who lack the understanding, but it will unnecessarily complicate the act of finding the right spot for advanced users. Also the vB software already has the term "User CP", so it's not that unknown.

Why don't we use this approach, so no information gets lost?

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  'UCP'=> '<abbr title="User Control Panel">UCP</abbr>',
  'CAPTCHA'=> 'Spambot countermeasures (<abbr title"Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart">CAPTCHA</abbr>)', 
Oh yeah: in a consistent world also acronyms like URL, FAQ and UTC should be considered.

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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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First, is this thread about abbreviations or acronyms? They're not the same thing.

The <abbr> tag shouldn't be used for acronyms. The <acronym> tag was deprecated a while back.
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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Doesn't the title attribute display a popup upon mouseover? No need for a special tag, just do a <span title="User Control Panel">UCP</span>.

Anyway, acronyms abbreviate a phrase based on its initials. So no it's not an abbreviation of on word (like "abbreviation" might be abbreviated "abbr"), but it's an abbreviation of a phrase.
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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callumacrae wrote:First, is this thread about abbreviations or acronyms? They're not the same thing.

The <abbr> tag shouldn't be used for acronyms. The <acronym> tag was deprecated a while back.
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The <abbr> element represents an abbreviation or acronym.
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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This should probably only apply to things that are specific to the internet/forums/phpBB like UCP, ACP, CAPTCHA etc.

UTC, FAQ are acronyms that are used in day-to-day life and we can expect users to know.
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

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Unknown Bliss wrote:UTC, FAQ are acronyms that are used in day-to-day life and we can expect users to know.
Maybe in the UK, but besides (potentially) a handful of programmers I know nobody that uses UTC on a daily basis (or even know what it means).

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Use <abbr> tags and use them on every abbreviation/acroym
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Re: [RFC] Remove abbreviations for usability purposes

Post by bantu »

Initial post is too vague for me. Which language strings would be affected by this change?

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