Comparison & Result & Suggestions

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Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by Meis2M » Thu May 20, 2010 5:29 pm

Hello

first see this link
http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/Invi ... +vBulletin

its the comparison...

phpbb in some way or some tools is very good. for example in Data Storage is best.

but there isnt some items in phpbb but its fixable.

1-
in Posts
html not support.

2-
WYSIWYG Editor....there isnt in phpbb

3-
in Forums
Trashcan Forum

4-
Community
Rating/Karma System
all of the system have the karma and rating system but just phpbb isnt.

5-
Calendar
just phpbb has not Calendar...

6-
Archiving

i wish see some of this items in 3.1.x

My english not good sry...
Tnx.
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Re: Comparison & Result

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Thu May 20, 2010 6:19 pm

1) phpBB will not allow raw HTML in posts.
2, 3) You'll find topics about these two features, which are being favorably looked at.
4) There have been lengthy discussions in the past about how to create a user rating system. I'm not sure what the final verdit may be here.
5) Why should phpBB have a calendar?
6) Why should phpBB have an archive?
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Re: Comparison & Result

Post by Meis2M » Fri May 21, 2010 4:49 am

Tnx for answer.
6) Why should phpBB have an archive?
why not?
i think archiving is useful for improve the visitors because u know in the archiving part u cant see any style & its just posts and topic. i think search engine robots in archiving part can be active and helps to better submit in google or... .

i have some ideas another about next plan.

7-
Multi Rank
its a good tools for admin and its very useful for a forum. for example in phpbb.com Mr. Acyd Burn is one of the development and manager. by multi rank in profile and topics can show ranks.


8-
See profile
i think should be a permission in general setting in acp that admin can set a option guests or robot can see the user`s profile.... some people like guests can see the user`s profile and delete this code in memberlist.php

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		// Can this user view profiles/memberlist?
		if (!$auth->acl_gets('u_viewprofile', 'a_user', 'a_useradd', 'a_userdel'))
		{
			if ($user->data['user_id'] != ANONYMOUS)
			{
				trigger_error('NO_VIEW_USERS');
			}

			login_box('', ((isset($user->lang['LOGIN_EXPLAIN_' . strtoupper($mode)])) ? $user->lang['LOGIN_EXPLAIN_' . strtoupper($mode)] : $user->lang['LOGIN_EXPLAIN_MEMBERLIST']));
		}

9-
Sitemap
we saw rss in 3.0.6.. and i hope see a powerful sitemap in 3.1.x . with submit sitemap in webmaster google or any webmaster and search engine , the forum`s link better submit in google or.. & improving visitors.


10-
Profile views
profile views is a good mod in phpbb.


11-
Attachment
i think the uploading system in attachment is not good... u just see a upload bar in pop up box when u submit a file...
it was better when a user uploading a file can see the uploading percent & volume file & upload remaining.... just upload bar similar start up the "Microsoft Windows XP " not enough. :D


12-
Direct Download
i think we need a option in acp that admin can active or unactive the direct download attachment... some people like give the direct link attachment to users with ability resume.


13-
Attachment password
with attachment password just special users can download the attachment.


14-
acp announcement centre
is a good tools for admin...


15-
Quick edit
use the ajax quick edit with usual edit.


16-
Transfer the posts
we need a option in the delete box user in acp , when admin decide to delete a user can transfer the user post to another user.


17-
Count post
need a option in manager user in acp that admin can change the post count.


18-
Tags and prefix
just its perfect


Style Suggestions

19-
Tabs
profile tabs is a good and beautiful tools for a forum.
for example.... Statics Tabs.... Contact Tabs... Signature Tabs or....


20-
Boxs
see this pics.

view forum:
http://www.takimg.com/images/whm7nse4slqhpzftg23p.png

this code for view forum

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<!-- IF S_DISPLAY_ONLINE_LIST -->

	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">

	<tr>
		<td class="cat" width="40%"><h5>{L_OPTIONS}</h5><td class="cat" width="20%"><h5>&#1570;&#1605;&#1575;&#1585; &#1575;&#1582;&#1578;&#1589;&#1575;&#1589;&#1740; &#1607;&#1585; &#1578;&#1575;&#1604;&#1575;&#1585;</h5></td><td class="cat" width="20%"><h5><!-- IF S_SINGLE_MODERATOR -->{L_MODERATOR}<!-- ELSE -->{L_MODERATORS}<!-- ENDIF --></h5></td><td class="cat" width="20%"><h5>{L_WHO_IS_ONLINE}</h5></td>

	

	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">

				<td class="row1" width="40%"><form method="post" action="{S_FORUM_ACTION}"><span class="gensmall"><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>{L_DISPLAY_TOPICS}:</span>&nbsp;{S_SELECT_SORT_DAYS}&nbsp;<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><span class="gensmall">{L_SORT_BY}</span> {S_SELECT_SORT_KEY} {S_SELECT_SORT_DIR}&nbsp;<input class="btnlite" type="submit" name="sort" value="{L_GO}" /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p></form>

	<td class="row1" width="20%" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><b>&#1578;&#1593;&#1583;&#1575;&#1583; &#1589;&#1601;&#1581;&#1575;&#1578;:</b>&nbsp;{PAGE_NUMBER}<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><b>&#1578;&#1593;&#1583;&#1575;&#1583; &#1605;&#1576;&#1575;&#1581;&#1579;:</b>&nbsp; {TOTAL_TOPICS} </p><br />
		<td class="row1" width="20%"><!-- IF S_SINGLE_MODERATOR -->{L_MODERATOR}<!-- ELSE -->{L_MODERATORS}<!-- ENDIF -->: {MODERATORS}</td>
		<td class="row1" width="20%">{LOGGED_IN_USER_LIST}
			
	</table>

<!-- ENDIF -->
<br clear="all" />
<table>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</table>
		<!-- IF S_DISPLAY_POST_INFO -->
	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">

	<tr>
<td class="cat" width="65%"><h5></h5><td class="cat" width="35%"><h5></h5></td>
	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">
	<tr>
		<td class="row1" align="{S_CONTENT_FLOW_BEGIN}" valign="top">

			<table cellspacing="3" cellpadding="0" border="0">
			<tr>
				<td width="20" style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_NEW_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NEW_POSTS}</td>
				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				<td width="20" style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NO_NEW_POSTS}</td>

				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				<td width="20" style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_ANNOUNCE_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_ICON_ANNOUNCEMENT}</td>
			</tr>
			<tr>
				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_HOT_NEW_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NEW_POSTS_HOT}</td>

				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_HOT_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NO_NEW_POSTS_HOT}</td>
				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_STICKY_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_ICON_STICKY}</td>
			</tr>

			<tr>
				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_LOCKED_NEW_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NEW_POSTS_LOCKED}</td>
				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_LOCKED_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_NO_NEW_POSTS_LOCKED}</td>
				<td>&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>

				<td style="text-align: center;">{FOLDER_MOVED_IMG}</td>
				<td class="gensmall">{L_TOPIC_MOVED}</td>
			</tr>
			</table>
		</td>
		<td class="row1" align="ltr"><span class="gensmall"><!-- BEGIN rules -->{rules.RULE}<br /><!-- END rules --></span></td>
	</tr>

	</table></table>
<!-- ENDIF -->

view topic:
http://www.takimg.com/images/c1hb9hf0r9cgur3gaqr.png

and this code for view topic

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<!-- IF S_DISPLAY_ONLINE_LIST -->

	<br clear="all" />

	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">

	<tr>
<td class="cat" width="35%"><h5>&#1570;&#1605;&#1575;&#1585; &#1662;&#1587;&#1578; &#1583;&#1585; &#1581;&#1575;&#1604; &#1605;&#1588;&#1575;&#1607;&#1583;&#1607;</h5></td><td class="cat" width="35%"><h5>{L_WHO_IS_ONLINE}</h5></td><td class="cat" width="35%"><h5><!-- IF S_SINGLE_MODERATOR -->{L_MODERATOR}<!-- ELSE -->{L_MODERATORS}<!-- ENDIF --></h5></td>

	

	<table class="tablebg" width="100%" cellspacing="1">

	<td class="row1" width="35%" valign="middle" nowrap="nowrap"><b>&#1578;&#1593;&#1583;&#1575;&#1583; &#1589;&#1601;&#1581;&#1575;&#1578;:</b>&nbsp;{PAGE_NUMBER}<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><b>&#1578;&#1593;&#1583;&#1575;&#1583; &#1662;&#1587;&#1578; &#1607;&#1575;:</b>&nbsp;  {TOTAL_POSTS} </p><br />
		<td class="row1" width="35%">{LOGGED_IN_USER_LIST}
		<td class="row1" width="30%"><!-- IF S_SINGLE_MODERATOR -->{L_MODERATOR}<!-- ELSE -->{L_MODERATORS}<!-- ENDIF -->: {MODERATORS}</td>

		
</td></td></td></td>
	<tr>
	</table>
<!-- ENDIF -->

<br clear="all" />

<table width="100%" cellspacing="1">
<tr>
	<td width="40%" valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" align="{S_CONTENT_FLOW_BEGIN}"><!-- IF S_TOPIC_MOD --><form method="post" action="{S_MOD_ACTION}"><span class="gensmall">{L_QUICK_MOD}:</span> {S_TOPIC_MOD} <input class="btnlite" type="submit" value="{L_GO}" /></form><!-- ENDIF --></td>

	<table class="tablebg" width="35%" cellspacing="1">

	<tr>
<td class="cat" width="35%"><h5>{L_FORUM_RULES}</h5></td>
	<table class="tablebg" width="35%" cellspacing="1">
	<tr>
		<td class="row1" align="{S_CONTENT_FLOW_BEGIN}" valign="top">
			<table cellspacing="3" cellpadding="0" border="0">

		<td class="row1" align="ltr"><span class="gensmall"><!-- BEGIN rules -->{rules.RULE}<br /><!-- END rules --></span></td>
	</tr>
	</table></table>

</tr>
</table>
21-
New smiles
i think we should have some new smiles in 3.1.x

22-
New button Quick reply
i think it`s good new button for active the quick reply in view topic.

and.... dont hurry development team to publish the 3.1.0 :D

ok... that was my ideas... My english not good and funny... Sry.

Good luck

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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by Arman_Ajn » Fri May 21, 2010 6:57 pm

i really appreciate meis2m for his great ideas about phpBB and i think almost all of them are necessary for the convenience of the users.
but it depends on the develop team decision ... ;)

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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by MichaelC » Sun May 23, 2010 7:26 pm

I think all of the ones in your recent posts are better left at MODs. You don't want to put ever feature possible to be installed on a vanilla phpbb (deafult phpbb install) otherwise there is no point in the Modifications Database and there would be alot more files and it would use alot more data storage. You don't want to clog it up too much. What is added is what the majority of users want to use not just some, or a few.
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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by Meis2M » Sun May 23, 2010 8:02 pm

When the big problem is to install MODs for usual users , it`s better to release a good and complete package for everyone ...

And about some of my suggested tools, every body knows that multi rank , see profile , attachment mod and etc. , almost don't have a big size.

For example we didn't have Quick reply mod before the 3.0.6 release, but this big Defect was a problem that was solved after 3.0.6 ... yes there are many MODs for phpbb but some mods are necessary for the package for being a complete one.

we must release a perfect package...

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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by DavidIQ » Sun May 23, 2010 8:12 pm

As has already been stated, it might be perfect for you but we're not interested in the needs of one single person. We are more interested in the needs of the rest of the world as a whole, which you cannot possibly represent. Adding your list of MODs to phpBB as base functions is only going to make the software that much harder to manage and maintain. So yes, they're better served as plug-ins or MODs.

To put it more into perspective let's take the "birthday" functions of phpBB3 as an example. That feature was thought to be something everyone would want...well it wasn't. Most people could live without it and the few that wanted it could have just added a MOD for it. Now a lot of people just leave it on just because it's there and enabled by default but not because it's "needed".
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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by callumacrae » Sun May 23, 2010 8:51 pm

I don't think every single feature in existence should be introduced, but I do think that MODs should be easier to install.

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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by MichaelC » Sun May 23, 2010 8:53 pm

http://www.phpbb.com/mods/automod/
and
http://www.phpbb.com/mods/umil/

One does file edits
The other does SQL and Module Management and Permissions

Also if you read viewtopic.php?f=81&t=32868 it discusses a built in version of autoMOD ect.,
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Re: Comparison & Result & Suggestions

Post by Arman_Ajn » Mon May 24, 2010 9:24 am

what about this one "attachment with direct link (with resume capability)"
i dont think there is even a MOD for it???
besides , WYSIWYG editor is something that everyone requires it!
another one is Transferring the posts of a user to another after deleting him... (no MOD for it !)

and also some other of his choices... ;)

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