[RFC]Make permission system easy!

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[RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by yops » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:10 pm

Hello,

I would like to thank everyone for their hard work, and keeping the script open source.

So here is my suggestion: make the permission system simple like it used to be in phpbb 2
The permission system in phpBB3 is really complicated and need too much time to get used to.
Here is some interesting points:

It is Hard to
-Add board administrator
-Add board moderator
-Edit forum permissions
-Manipulate local/global terms

Now some complicated stuff such as
-Forum without permissions, should be replaced with standard permission, I remember the first time creation board forums it was really wired as they don't show up in the index
-Add this permission: "Guests can see forums topic but can't read them": so if I visit this forum for example, I will be able to see all topics there but I won't be able to read them

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by naderman » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:11 am

Moving this to discussion as it lacks technical detail on how to implement the proposal.

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by brunoais » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:03 am

Just to get some ideas...

What do you think of the permissions system forumotion created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?
What do you think of the permissions system freeforums created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?

If you answer those, at least I would be able to understand what you mean (kinda) and what you want to be available.

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by imkingdavid » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 pm

I agree that the permissions system is complex, especially to new administrators. It could use a makeover on the frontend, but I personally do not have any idea concerning the best way to go about it.

In terms of what you suggested, that sounds a lot like the already existing Permission Roles. You can define a preset of permissions and then select that from the list when applying permissions to forums so that you don't have to manually select the permissions each time.
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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by yops » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:34 pm

Well the permission system in phpBB 2 was really simple, it have a standard permissions and it is very easy to edit.
Also adding admins/mods is not that simple in phpBB 3...too much docs you need to read to be able to manage this permission system

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:57 pm

brunoais wrote: What do you think of the permissions system forumotion created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?
What do you think of the permissions system freeforums created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?
Is there some way to evaluate these without signing up for an account there?
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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by yops » Mon Aug 06, 2012 1:52 am

A_Jelly_Doughnut wrote:
brunoais wrote: What do you think of the permissions system forumotion created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?
What do you think of the permissions system freeforums created for their ACP? Does it make sense? Too simple? Could it be improved?
Is there some way to evaluate these without signing up for an account there?
Demo forum for freeforums:
Username: bbper
Password: phpbbperm

Demo forum for forumotion:
Username: admin
Password: phpbb3perm


Freeforums permissions system seems to be very easy, same for forumotion

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by EXreaction » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:48 am

Use permission roles, they are far easier

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by brunoais » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:18 am

Both forummotion and free forums' ACP for phpBB in easy mode do not have roles system available, you need to use the advanced mode for that.

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Re: [RFC]Make permission system easy!

Post by Pony99CA » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:28 am

yops wrote:Here is some interesting points:

It is Hard to
-Add board administrator
-Add board moderator
-Edit forum permissions
-Manipulate local/global terms
The first two are very easy (add them to the appropriate groups) -- unless you're a complete newbie.

I have no idea what the fourth item means.

And, yes, permissions can be daunting, but part of that is because they're so powerful.

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