phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MichaelC » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:30 pm

It does but for it to be worth the amount of development time and the significance of extensions the overall view was it would need extensions.
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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MartinTruckenbrodt » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:32 pm

Hello,
I think the extensions/RFC is not very successfully. I think a free features discussion without any code is needed.
Also I think Area51 has been a top secret for too much time. I like the new way of partially transparency. But I think it comes a little bit too late.
And then we have noticed that simple forums are not a good basis for the features discussion. ... see the posts above.
Please try to complete phpBB 3.x with most of missing core features. And then re-design it for phpBB4.
Please move from passive product management to active product management. Use the MOD DB to speed up Ascraeus developement.

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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by drathbun » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:59 pm

MartinTruckenbrodt wrote:Also I think Area51 has been a top secret for too much time.
What does that mean? area51 was public years ago, before even the release of phpBB3. But maybe you meant something different... :?
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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MartinTruckenbrodt » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:53 pm

Hello,
okay, "top secret" is a little bit heavy. ;)

But for a long time there was no information on http://www.phpbb.com where to post feature requests and so on. I think it has been changed about one or two years ago.

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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by callumacrae » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:11 pm

There's been a big link labeled "Area 51 Development Board" on the community ever since I have used phpBB!
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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MichaelC » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:15 pm

callumacrae wrote:There's been a big link labeled "Area 51 Development Board" on the community ever since I have used phpBB!
Actually thats recent but it has been under the development sub-menu and community sub-menu for a long time.

Plus there have been numerous blog articles/announcements about it.
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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by brunoais » Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:40 pm

XTF wrote:
Oleg wrote:
XTF wrote: What's stopping you from changing the 3.1 release strategy to your better release strategy?
The consensus of the development team was that releasing 3.1 without extensions was not worth the effort.

It would be nice if all developers prioritized getting extensions finished above other work, but so far such a thing has not happened.
Does 3.1 contain no worthwhile improvements over 3.0 besides the extensions support?
No but it's a huge goal for phpBB.
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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MartinTruckenbrodt » Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:21 pm

Hello,
as I posted under viewtopic.php?p=240463#p240463 .
If the extensions manager is able to install a compatible version of Advanced Double Activation Pack then it's usefull. If not then it's not an alternative for MODs and AutoMOD.

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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by imkingdavid » Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:08 pm

MartinTruckenbrodt wrote:Hello,
as I posted under viewtopic.php?p=240463#p240463 .
If the extensions manager is able to install a compatible version of Advanced Double Activation Pack then it's usefull. If not then it's not an alternative for MODs and AutoMOD.

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Re: phpBB 3.1 Information and Status

Post by MartinTruckenbrodt » Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:00 pm

Hello imkingdavid,
at the moment I'm finishing a new MOD: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2156113 . Then I want to force and finish developement of my largest project: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=1736385 .
Several weeks ago I wrote Nils a PM about these things. I made him a trusting offer on the direct and personal way. I got no answer by now. Please contact him. These will be my last statement about these things here.
If dev team doesn't want to tell me which features would be added to the (Ascraeus or) Arsia core or if the are not able to make a usefull public preselection for the Arsia features then I will not start any coding for extensions or patches. At the moment I don't have any skills for it, too. And the both projects I told above 1st will be usefull for the Olympus using community soon and 2nd will be very usefull for the people visiting and using my websites. Since more than eight years I want to do the second project. In these years I've done enough for the phpBB community reducing my personal priorities for some years.
I hope you understand my satement and my personal priorities a little bit.

I think you can have a look to the install.xml of Advanced Double Activation Pack to answer my question about Extensions Manager, too. ;) I have no own experience with these things.

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