Who voted for George Bush?

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Uchiha Nick
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Re: Who voted for George Bush?

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One scheme has ended and opened the door to the next
each nation/country had its black moments, no denying that. but for some reason people wont learn from it but mostly retaliate to make even a bigger mess. wasn't WW1 supposed to be the war to end all wars? a few years later WW2 came. point is, if we keep up this attitude we end up destroying mankind thanks to those weapons of mass destruction and all.

as for kerry, i dont know what he has done. ( im dutch so.. ) but why choose Bush? bush was angered because of the WTC/Pentagon ( incident? ) and that was understanable. but now, Iraq. who is next? bush keeps imagining new enemys to see as a thread. that man "is" dangerous. i believe the bible says something like : "dont kill others" ( i dont know the exact lines ) but still he insists on keeping the death penalty? if he thinks he's so great and all, he doesnt have his own things straightened up. remind you of someone? yea i do, the same madman started WW2 to ( not meant as flaming ) kill all people who didn't fit his idea of perfect humans. however he himself was a person that he had declared war. it are those things that show it isnt smart to have such a leader.

hope you all got what i meant..
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There is no comparison at all between Bush and Hitler. Hitler annexed entire nations to expand Germany's influence, and used the politics of race warfare to clean out all those that did not fit his fictional version of the pinnacle of the species (among others, Jews, gypsies, Muslims, blacks, Slavs, and, despite the alliance with Japan, Asians). Afghanistan has held its elections, and Iraq's elections are coming, and very, very few people were excluded from either of them (Taleban in the first case, Ba'athists in the second). Many anti-American parties are present, publically active, and openly tolerated in both nations. And don't forget -- Nazis can't run for office in France or Germany, and perhaps in other nations as well.

Further, Germany went to war on Hitler's word alone. The president requires the consent of Congress. And look at the results of cases where no intervention happened when obligations were broken. Pre-WWII Germany's violations of the border and arms limitations of the Treaty of Versailles should have been stopped by force if necessary. The Balkans fell apart and the world shook its finger at the fragmented nations while hundreds of thousands died. Rwanda tore itself apart to the sum of up to a million dead in only weeks as the rest of the world said it shouldn't do that. Half of the countries in sub-Saharan Africa haven't been stable in years, with repeated cease-fires being violated by all sides. How many could have been saved had Germany been stopped, or the world intervened in the former Yugoslavia early in the fragmentation, or an armed evacuation happened in Rwanda, or the world allowed looser rules of engagement in UN missions in Africa?

Saddam Hussein started two wars, and was nearing the lifting of sanctions. Had he been able to look clean to a few key countries a little longer, the sanctions probably would have been lifted... and then what? At what point do you say, "Enough"?
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what i meant to say was bush and hitler didnt know what they were doing.
and right now i dont really know what goes on in america since i dont really have the time to watch the news etc. but you got to admit, one thing leads to the next
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Uchiha Nick wrote:bush and hitler didnt know what they were doing.
I disagree; Hitler knew exactly what he was doing.
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if so he would have killed himself, as he was a jew himself. ( spelled that right? )
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There is only anecdotal evidence of that, perhaps from a paternal grandparent, but there is no hard evidence of this.
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Uchiha Nick wrote: if so he would have killed himself, as he was a jew himself. ( spelled that right? )
actually he did :)

Ontopic:
I'm a die hard socialist (in comarison to me kerry would be far right) thus I'd voted kerry if i wasnt Belgian :p. So why not the green party? cause that would have been a terrible vote at that time. As long as bush wouldn't get reelected.
My vieuw on why he is in power: $$$ and $$$ and $$$. Yust go and vieuw the military and "rebuild" contracts and who in the whitehouse has connections or own part of those companies. But moste of them don't have the "face" to be a president. So they take a monky with a "powerfull" face and who has personal ideas that match the american mayority of christians and conservatives. That and spread some fear and you'll get your 51% share of votes.

And again offtopic:
Religion has done good in the past, and did bad.
It is still doing the same, only at this point i fear it is doing (or things are being done in it's name) that are way worse than all good things it's doing.
Give me scieence... but than again it is doing bad thing to... BUT AINT TELLS YOU WAT IS GOOD OR WRONG :p

Oh yeah, that lets me think of an other thing...
Christian rules (as far as i know them):
If you get hit, show your other cheek, AND
You shall not do to others what you don't want to be done to yourselve..
And W was a born again christian?
annyone notice something wrong here :p

so far my adition to this thread.

(sorry for the bad english, it's late :p)
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Bertg wrote: My vieuw on why he is in power: $$$ and $$$ and $$$.
It takes money to get into office in the US. But Kerry was, by far, the wealthiest candidate in the race. Most of the remaining candidates that got airtime are also millionaires -- Bush, Cheney, and Nader certainly are, and I believe that the Green Party pair are also very well-off.

I wish there was a fair way to change this, but it would require an amendment to the Constitution, which would be very, very hard-pressed to get through the process.
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