VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

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VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by ukjim » Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:56 am

I have spent the last 2 hours reading through various posts from people asking whether the Views counts gets incremented / increased by Spiders and Bots and Spammers.

While Spambots could be considered an entirely different issue and problem in its own right, with various MODS and mechanisms to combat Spam, I am more interested in the simple fact that normal search engine spiders/robots seem to have always been allowed to "get away" with increasing the topic Views counts. Why :?:

I think that forum owners and topic posters don't like this because they want a fairly accurate representation of the number of views by real people, by excluding the Bots from incrementing the views count altogether.

I understand there is the issue that Views may increase by several clicks simply by the fact the author of the topic might re-view their own topic, particularly if editing it shortly after the initial post.
But once this has settled down it is nice to know roughly how much interest your post has generated.
Even if people (other than the author) reading a topic view it repeatedly, this is normally an indication of genuine interest in that particular topic.

Search engine bots can account for a high number of Views to the post, which portray a false picture of topic interest. :cry:

phpBB 3.0.2 already allows identification of Spiders/Bots, and there is even an option within the Groups forum permissions under the Misc tab for Bots to control whether the Bots group may Increment the Post Counter, so why on earth isn't there a similar setting to stop Bots Incrementing the Views Counter ??

This seems to have been a hot topic of discussion and misunderstanding by forum owners for the past 3 or 4 years. :!:
I just don't see why this idea has not been implemented particularly since phpBB is specifically checking for Spiders now (unless I have missed it somewhere?).

I would have thought that a global switch under the Spider/Bots section could turn off incrementing of the Views counters. Or even a switch against each individual Spider/Bot, although I can't really think of a reason why you would want to allow some but not other bots from affecting the Views counts.

I would be interested to know peoples VIEWS or comments on this point!! :lol:

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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by igorw » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:55 pm

Open: viewtopic.php

Find:

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if (isset($user->data['session_page']) && strpos($user->data['session_page'], '&t=' . $topic_id) === false)
Replace with:

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if (isset($user->data['session_page']) && strpos($user->data['session_page'], '&t=' . $topic_id) === false && !$user->data['is_bot'])
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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by ukjim » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:42 am

Thank you very much eviL3 :)
That was nice and easy.

I was intrigued by the triple equals sign operator (===).

At first I thought it was a typo, but decided I'd best look it up before opening my mouth!

$a === $b means Identical, i.e. TRUE if $a is equal to $b, and they are of the same type. (introduced in PHP 4)

Ya learn something new every day.

Thanks again.

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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by igorw » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:28 am

:ugeek:

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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by jackgopher » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:54 pm

I wanted just to say thanks to eviL3, I had exactly the same problem as ukjim, and I found this post by googling "phpbb bots increasing page views", and it solved my problem.
So you have a thank you from me too....
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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by defeedme » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:23 am

THIS has to be one of the most annoying problems with phpbb.. Why in the world they would think that overall visits is more important to display than UNIQUE visits is beyond me.
The most important thing is the UNIQUE visits on a topic - and I'm assuming there is a mod for this but am still looking... I am not really sure if evil3's code will fix this, he does not really explain exactly what it does... Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks

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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:26 pm

eviL3's code was implemented in phpBB 3.0.3.
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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by Mario_AU » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:34 pm

A_Jelly_Doughnut wrote:eviL3's code was implemented in phpBB 3.0.3.
has it ? i am using 3.0.4 and it still has the old code. or do i have to do something in the admincp ?
i could manually edit it but then what you said confuses me.
please explain...
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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by Lurttinen » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:58 am

You are not using 3.0.4?
Have you updated your files and not just the database?

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Re: VIEWS count incremented by Spiders/Bots

Post by Mario_AU » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:45 am

Lurttinen wrote:You are not using 3.0.4?
Have you updated your files and not just the database?
i am using 3.0.4 (database and files)
but the above specific code is not there.
what i have is:

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if (isset($user->data['session_page']) && !$user->data['is_bot'] && strpos($user->data['session_page'], '&t=' . $topic_id) === false)
but now looking at it it HAS the bot entry, so i assume it's the new code and in fact the above changes i assume are for manual edits for older versions.
but when i follow instructions, i follow them to the T. one character out and i stop.
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