Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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ckwalsh
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Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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Sorry if this isn't the right place to put this, but I thought it might be a good way to beat the bots.

Could a confirmation system be added with a set of pictures and questions, all of which could be modified by an admin, that could be asked when someone is registering. For example, someone could use some clipart of some snow and have the question "What season is it in the picture?", or have a number labled map and ask which continent is Africa. Since it involves inteligence, it would prevent bots, and if the sets were easily changed it would allow for question sets that bots figured out to be changed easily.

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Re: Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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Problem is its not automated and every forum has to have differerent images and questions.
Its too annoying for most people.

In another thread it was hinted that something better was coming along. :)

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Re: Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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Cheater512 wrote: In another thread it was hinted that something better was coming along. :)
*waits in anticipation*

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Re: Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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one of the best ways to eliminate spambots is to make sure every link supplied by a user, both in his "home page" (profile) and any link that appears in any post, has a "rel=nofollow", which removes the main reason for spamming (it tells the search engines not to increase the rating of the linked site based on this link).
the problem is that this will only be effective if it is done in the core product. as a mod it is useless, because the operators of bots do not know which forums have put the mod and which didnt, so they will attack everyone.
but if it will be in the core product, it is more than likely that most attackers will skip phpbb3 boards, because the return (for them) will be minimal.

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I really hate doing that. It completely removes the point of Pagerank. :(

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I'm innocent :mrgreen:

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Re: Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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Possibly playing devil's advocate here a bit :)
Cheater512 wrote: I really hate doing that. It completely removes the point of Pagerank. :(
Does it? The idea of pagerank is that the value of a site increases due to other sites linking to it. That means value is assigned to the fact a page is linked; the assumption is made that the other site is linked to for a reason.

Which, simply, is not the case for websites linked to from profile pages. As I personally, as the webmaster, have little control over what users put in their website field, I don't really think their site should be awarded for my site linking them.

Now, if I put their site in my links section because I feel there is genuine value for my visitors in the site, that's another matter. But people getting higher page ranks for their home sites just because they registered at a bunch of forums? In fact I think that defies the purpose of pageranks.

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What do you think the average pagerank of a profile page is? ;)

The more they post the more pr that page gets so the more pr they get. Its a good system.

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OK, I missed the bit about also disabling the link in every post... Although I still think it at least in part defies the purpose of page ranks. I want to find someone's page because it contains useful information, not because they post themselves stupid on some board.

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Re: Request for Stopping Spambots in 3.0

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Eelke wrote: Possibly playing devil's advocate here a bit :)
Cheater512 wrote: I really hate doing that. It completely removes the point of Pagerank. :(
Does it? The idea of pagerank is that the value of a site increases due to other sites linking to it. That means value is assigned to the fact a page is linked; the assumption is made that the other site is linked to for a reason.

Which, simply, is not the case for websites linked to from profile pages. As I personally, as the webmaster, have little control over what users put in their website field, I don't really think their site should be awarded for my site linking them.

Now, if I put their site in my links section because I feel there is genuine value for my visitors in the site, that's another matter. But people getting higher page ranks for their home sites just because they registered at a bunch of forums? In fact I think that defies the purpose of pageranks.
that is partly true. it isnt just about being linked. good valid XHTML/CSS is a very big point, correct useage of <h1> etc. etc. is one- and then the content.

seriously :x
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