new idea for PHP IDE

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Yoda_IRC
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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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java compilers compile the source into a "byte code", this isn't native to a real macine. It is this byte code which is then interpritted. If it was compilled then you would get a file containing assembly code. Youdon't. Java CLASS files do not contain assembler they contain a intermiadiate step. Its faster than interpriting from the orriginal source but is still slower than a compilled language because the JVM needs to interprit the byte code and execute it for the machine its really running on. Compilled languages don't need a Virtual Machine.

Anyway I only mentioned eclipse because as an example for some code features.

and of course performance depends on how you code the application. I recently used an apaling application called ModelSim a VHDL simulator/editor, and it couldn't even keep up with content highlighting.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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Yoda_IRC wrote: java compilers compile the source into a "byte code", this isn't native to a real macine. It is this byte code which is then interpritted. If it was compilled then you would get a file containing assembly code. Youdon't. Java CLASS files do not contain assembler they contain a intermiadiate step. Its faster than interpriting from the orriginal source but is still slower than a compilled language because the JVM needs to interprit the byte code and execute it for the machine its really running on. Compilled languages don't need a Virtual Machine.
I was half right, then :P

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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The problem with Java is it is another layer of problems. It is slower to load, there are versioning issues, people have to have it installed, etc. It is much better to have a program like notepad where you click it and it opens.

Java is OK for some stuff, but .exe editor will most certainly outpreform a java one.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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BondGamer wrote: The problem with Java is it is another layer of problems. It is slower to load, there are versioning issues, people have to have it installed, etc. It is much better to have a program like notepad where you click it and it opens.

Java is OK for some stuff, but .exe editor will most certainly outpreform a java one.

jou can make java exe files.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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But they're only wrappers for the java byte code. As far as I know, you still need the Java VM installed.

Incidentally, a Java-based IDE for PHP does exist - see the PHPEclipse plug-in for the Eclipse framework.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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8O Seriously recommend that people actually research the crap they are spouting before spouting it. Enough said. :roll:

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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guys hold on...
this gonna blow your minds!!!

A php ide doesn't not actually compile anything!!!!

OH MAN can you believe it! so guess what?
It really doesn't matter if the program is very fast or not
because it's essentially just a text editor with fancy features and a parser.

Besides considering the thread starter hasn't responded and seems to be lacking in some basic grammer skills I think he'll be making any IDE's anytime soon.



Java is as fast in number crunching terms as C++ but it uses more RAM due to JVM overhead.

And yes java is compiled, and yes it can make exe files (they're jar files in disguise)

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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automagnus wrote: guys hold on...
this gonna blow your minds!!!

A php ide doesn't not actually compile anything!!!!
Oh it doesn't?

You can compile PHP to machine code for faster execution and/or to prevent someone from stealing code.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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BondGamer wrote: Oh it doesn't?

You can compile PHP to machine code for faster execution and/or to prevent someone from stealing code.
That is the most ridiculous yet interesting thing i've ever seen.

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Re: new idea for PHP IDE

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edit wrong topic

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