That is basically my point in a nutshell. I think a prediction resolution of a year is a little silly. Is it too much to ask to predict which quarter? While I understand specific dates wouldn't work, surely this could be narrowed down to a month, right?.
In one sentence you're asking for a quarter, and in another you want to be more specific down to a month? You do state a resolution down to a day would be unreasonable, but I guess accuracy of a week isn't "unreasonable"? In that already there's almost a 12 fold difference in accuracy.
Whilst the developers are in their own mind probably do have it down to a month, and my own guestimates seeing progress at CVS and generally how fast 2.0.x developed... I think I have in my own mind which month that would be.
But give it a 4 fold (quarterly) leeway... it'd be difficult to say which one of Q1, Q2, Q3, or Q4 it might fall on.
Though I will say phpBB2.2 will be released either H1 or H2 2004... that any better?
I'm not assuming anything. The original poster got lambasted for making what I thought was a reasonable point. I've seen lynch mob mentality with fiercely loyal users before, so it's not surprising. .
Right, lets see... someone comes in with absolutely no history and quite clearly states that the developers need to hurry up just because said two companies have their own development schedual?
I frankly see that as trolling, badly too I might add.
Development for phpBB2.2 will happen at the pace planning and implimentation can coherrently proceed.
Okay, I am perfectly capable of doing this, I have already done it. However, I need to spend my time elsewhere right now. I am talking about straight up vanilla versions of these BBs. People have projects due "in 2004", and need to make a decision what direction to take and how much risk is involved with each decision..
If you are well capable of doing this, then why don't you? If you percieve that current 2.2 CVS is closer to what you need in terms foundation, use it... but is vB or IPB are closer to what you need, use them.
Though if the foundation of the basis of phpBB2.2 is too different to what you want and requires more rework for your implimentation... then time would obviously be better spent. The converse is also true regarding the foundations upon which vB or IPB are built upon.
What works for them? version 2.0? I am using 2.0.6 and it "works". But I want these new bells and whistles that 2.2 is promising. But if we are talking about winter 2004, and other acceptable options are available today, and I need this by late spring, it's an easy decision. That "greatest forum on the internet" sounds like "pride goeth before the fall" to me. Yes you have some very devoted fans. I have used phpBB since 1.4.2, and I like it. But I am not SOO loyal that I stop making reasonable decisions about the current options.
I've lost count how many times it's been said, but if something else if better suits in your humble opinion... use it
From the milestones, most of the core features are already there as after M4, there would/should be no new additional features and would then be a case of bug hunting... so really, on balance you could use phpBB2.2 or anything else you may deem as a better fit as for whatever you are doing, there wouild be rework anyway.
There is no "Thoust shall useth phpBB"... Heck, we're even going as far as telling you to use something completely different if it better suits your needs at the current time or perhaps future time if you have planned how things may be extended in the future
Demanding that development should hurry up usually delays things as time and effort is being detracted from getting the next version "done".
Thanks for the status, but I don't think I am alone with I say a target of "2004" after this much time is not a reasonable answer. Sorry, just the way I feel.
How about we turned it around... you say you needed to have your project done by "late spring" so I'll just pick the month of April, from the 1st till the 30th.
Can you say which day you'd be able to deliver your solution on? Unlikely... you might be able to say which week or less specifically first half or latter half.
But in the end you still said "late spring"... which depending where you are could be March, April or May.