New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by Lirodon » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:45 am

Right now this is just HTML code. Its not a working model.

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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by neufke » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:05 am

Rhino.Freak wrote:
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Lirodon wrote:
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Admittedly, the ProSilver style feels very dated. The design language of the web has changed, and even though 3.1 did make subtle changes to the theme to improve its markup with more use of CSS to replace hardcoded images, we've had the exact same default interface for nearly 10 years. phpBB looks like it is stuck in the past.

Beyond the aesthetics issues, ProSilver is also not optimized for high resolution and touch-based enviroments. Small text and buttons may have been approriate back when 1024x768 was the most common resolution, but becomes progressively tiny and hard to read on higher-resolution displays. Just think of what it looks like on a 4K monitor without zooming. Some of our sprites still use GIF images too.

You, also, really have to design things mobile-first nowadays. We need to have a theme that is more in line with modern design trends, and can be easily customized by webmasters to compliment their overall web design.
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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by DavidIQ » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:07 pm

Lirodon wrote:
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Personally, I think we should internally support one of the compiled CSS formats (either SASS or LESS).
We were planning on going with SASS from the looks of it.
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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by Rhino.Freak » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:16 pm

Does that mean we have to learn a bit of SASS and compile everytime we edit something in this theme? That doesn't sound good to me.

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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by VSE » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:37 pm

Rhino.Freak wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:16 pm
Does that mean we have to learn a bit of SASS and compile everytime we edit something in this theme? That doesn't sound good to me.
In a development environment, SASS would be compiled at runtime in the browser. For distribution, SASS would be pre-compiled so a normal CSS file can be distributed.

If you just want to edit something in a theme, well that's a lot easier with something like SASS because instead of finding something in a spaghetti of thousand son CSS lines, ideally, you'll find it in one spot (like how easy it would be to change a color code).
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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by david63 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:48 pm

Out of interest how would using SASS affect extensions?
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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by Senky » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:37 pm

VSE wrote:
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In a development environment, SASS would be compiled at runtime in the browser.
I had an opportunity to try this technique on one major project and found it impractical. Gulp + browsersync are my favourites now. I am not sure whether there has already been a discussion about it, but maybe you could consider using gulp (which has tons of other advantages as well).

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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by DavidIQ » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:47 pm

Yes gulp is also being pegged for this as well. Pretty sure Hanakin and callumacrae were on board with that, though not entirely sure.
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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by Louis7777 » Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:40 pm

Senky wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:37 pm
Gulp + browsersync are my favourites now. I am not sure whether there has already been a discussion about it, but maybe you could consider using gulp (which has tons of other advantages as well).
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It also has some nice modules for generating sprites.

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Re: New Style for phpBB 3.3 ?

Post by hanakin » Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:14 pm

Yes gulp will be used... Yes sass(specifically scss) will be used for the development version. Mini fixation will be used. Compression will be used. Things will be highly modular and better organized to make things easier to adjust things. There is still a lot of details and problems to work out, trust that we want something that will pls everyone weather they are a developer or have never touch html and are working with every aspect in mind

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