[RFC|Rejected] Removal of subsilver2

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Re: subsilver2

Post by code reader » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:23 pm

Thanks!
that *is* useful.

it does not mean, necessarily, that offing subsilver would be a bad thing, but it definitely shows that the claim "barely any mod supports it" is not precise.


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Re: subsilver2

Post by MichaelC » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:32 pm

nn-, and how many that support 3.0.6, 3.0.7 or 3.0.7-PL1?

If you only included them in the survey it would probably shrink to something more like 25%.

As, when phpBB 3 came out, subsilver had been used before that and some people didn't change until more recently.
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Re: subsilver2

Post by imkingdavid » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:42 pm

The thing is, it isn't completely just about which MODs support ss2, is about people who enjoy using ss2-based styles on their sites. If ss2 is dropped in 3.1, people will have to convert ss2 into ps. I'm not too big a fan of ss2, but I think that for the sake of people who use it, it should at least be included (if not fully supported) in 3.1.

That or else make a big announcement to let people know that ss2 is being discontinued so all styles should switch to support ps.

BTW, is a new style being planned for 3.1 or is it just going to be an updated version of prosilver?
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Re: subsilver2

Post by stickerboy » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:49 pm

If you include it, that technically implies it's supported, does it not? Why would we include something in your package (in a release for that matter), but refuse support on it? You either ship it and support it, or drop it and don't. Simple :)
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Re: subsilver2

Post by Oleg » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:56 am

Unknown Bliss wrote:nn-, and how many that support 3.0.6, 3.0.7 or 3.0.7-PL1?
Among modifications targeting 3.0.[67], subsilver support is around 61%.
If you only included them in the survey it would probably shrink to something more like 25%.

As, when phpBB 3 came out, subsilver had been used before that and some people didn't change until more recently.
Some modifications add support for subsilver after their initial release (per changelogs), presumably due to demand.

Also, subsilver support may be contributed by someone other than original developer.

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Re: subsilver2

Post by Rotsblok » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:07 pm

TBH since we (phpBB) has the sent statistics button, I think they have the numbers on how many ppl are using subSilver2 or based upon styles...(and yes it's not a definite number but a good indicator..) (or am I wrong here... ) so the numbers should be much of a problem..
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Re: subsilver2

Post by naderman » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:16 pm

Unfortunately we do not currently transmit a list of installed styles. I guess I should add that for 3.0.8.

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Re: subsilver2

Post by imkingdavid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:07 pm

naderman wrote:Unfortunately we do not currently transmit a list of installed styles. I guess I should add that for 3.0.8.
I think that would be a good idea, having a list of installed styles as well as the most used style on that board, etc.
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Re: subsilver2

Post by code reader » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:06 pm

naderman wrote:Unfortunately we do not currently transmit a list of installed styles. I guess I should add that for 3.0.8.
just curious: may i ask how many sites actually *use* the "send statistics" feature to report back? (and btw, i think it was a briliant idea to add it...).

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Re: subsilver2

Post by naderman » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:26 am

There have been a few more than 70.000 transmitted reports since we added it in 3.0.6. I'll try to throw together at least a few basic web accessible reports this week that everyone can look at. Right now it's only accessible through SQL queries ;-)

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