[RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by PayBas » Thu May 08, 2014 1:17 pm

Having an option in the UCP will give users the potential to break design.

If you have a forum with many sub-sub forums, the difference between single- or multi-level output can be pretty drastic, potentially breaking your well-crafted designs.

So if we would make this an UCP option, there would need to be an ACP setting too, to overrule the UCP. So the starting point would still be the ACP if we want to implement this.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Louis7777 » Thu May 08, 2014 1:31 pm

Let's just have another ACP option along with "List subforums in legend" and "List subforum in parent-forum’s legend".

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Master_Cylinder » Thu May 08, 2014 6:27 pm

Let's just skip the UCP options... ;)
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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by DavidIQ » Fri May 09, 2014 2:13 am

This would just need to be an option when setting up the category in ACP. Forget about the UCP option as that doesn't necessarily make sense.
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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Pony99CA » Fri May 09, 2014 2:32 am

Master_Cylinder wrote:The user should only be allowed to decide what the admin wants the users to decide.
For important things (like the ability to post URLs/images/Flash, group names or board security issues), yes.

For purely display-oriented things (like how many posts per page are displayed, topic ordering or sub-forum depth), no. The admin might set a default for those things, but the user should be able to change them. Otherwise you're just micro-managing.

Now if there are good technical reasons to prevent the user from having control, that's another issue.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Pony99CA » Fri May 09, 2014 2:36 am

PayBas wrote:Having an option in the UCP will give users the potential to break design.

If you have a forum with many sub-sub forums, the difference between single- or multi-level output can be pretty drastic, potentially breaking your well-crafted designs.
But if it displays them all already, it won't matter. The UCP option would just allow them to see what they were used to seeing. If that broke the design, maybe the user wouldn't like the results and would change it back.

Plus, I doubt that many new users would change the default anyway, so only experienced phpBB users would probably use it.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Master_Cylinder » Fri May 09, 2014 4:17 am

Pony99CA wrote: For purely display-oriented things (like how many posts per page are displayed, topic ordering or sub-forum depth), no. The admin might set a default for those things, but the user should be able to change them. Otherwise you're just micro-managing.
I disagree; I don't want my users altering how I want most things displayed. If I want all subforum levels displayed (or not) that should be the end of it.
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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Mess » Fri May 09, 2014 5:40 am

I don't agree that this should be an UCP option. Leave it to admins to decide on the forum layout.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by keith10456 » Fri May 09, 2014 3:28 pm

+1 for the "proposed" option. All of those links just confuses people and make unnecessary clutter. Always keep mobile in mind...

-1 for the UCP option. Unnecessary.

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Re: [RFC] Limit the subforums in legend to 1 level.

Post by Louis7777 » Fri May 09, 2014 6:56 pm

keith10456 wrote:Always keep mobile in mind...
And never neglect desktop users with large monitors either. :)

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