Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by Pony99CA » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:38 am

As long as the Extension system makes it easy to add new permissions, I don't see a big need for this in the core. If adding permissions with extensions is a huge chore, I'd be more amenable to considering it for the core.

If it does get added to the core, though, I would suggest making it a user permission (with the default for Registered Users, Guests and Bots set to No, of course). There might be some boards where knowing other users' IP addresses would be useful (gaming sites?), so why not at least allow the Admin the option of allowing users to see other users' IP addresses?

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by imkingdavid » Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:43 am

Adding permissions in extensions requires a couple of lines in a DB migration, as well as a language entry. So it wouldn't be difficult at all. For implementation of the permission at a functional level would require an event in the appropriate place(s).
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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by bantu » Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:45 am

I support having this permission in phpBB core as there very likely are cases where limiting access to IP addresses is (legally) beneficial; "principle of data economy" and "need to know" and all that.

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by agt3 » Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:22 pm

This feature could save people from going to jail .... in America & Europe that might not be the case but in third world countries one sentence criticizing a government or a police could cause your death or imprisonment.

there are many agent who will work hard to get the moderator level just to be able to track who says who.

Of course there are few moderator who you know personally and could give them this feature ... but some time (in large forums) you usually don't know each moderator in person.

This feature will help specially with all the political moments that's happening on this planet earth.

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by Un1matr1x » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:22 pm

If I'm living in one of those third world countries where one sentence criticizing a government or a police could cause your death or imprisonment, wouldn't I use stuff like proxys (f.e. tor-network) to hide, before ever post in a large public board?

Don't get me wrong, I don't have worries with adding this permission to the core, but I'm not sure if this would help in the case you showed here ...

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by DavidIQ » Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:19 pm

I would argue that a situation like that might benefit from something like a "High anonymity" mode where all IPs are stored/displayed as, and possibly updated to 127.0.0.1 or some other arbitrary IP. Although that might be better as an extension.
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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by agt3 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:54 pm

Un1matr1x wrote:If I'm living in one of those third world countries where one sentence criticizing a government or a police could cause your death or imprisonment, wouldn't I use stuff like proxys (f.e. tor-network) to hide, before ever post in a large public board?

Don't get me wrong, I don't have worries with adding this permission to the core, but I'm not sure if this would help in the case you showed here ...
Some do use tor or proxy ... but many barely have the basic knowledge to just log-in and post , having this option will give wider spectrum to post with no fear at all.

making this option a feature will make phpbb with a Tor feature (if the admin chose to activate it) which will give the script an edge that's in every browser out there.

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by Master_Cylinder » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:07 pm

If you can't trust your forum moderators with IP info, you need better moderators instead of a way to hide needed info from them...
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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by agt3 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:17 pm

Master_Cylinder wrote:If you can't trust your forum moderators with IP info, you need better moderators instead of a way to hide needed info from them...
to me the only person you could trust is the one you know personally (and sometimes they turn around!). In moderation not all moderators are the same, and thus they don't have the same level of trust .... having 100% trust (on anything) isn't a very wise way of doing things.

This could be a measure of privacy issue to the user (in general), in specific (rare) issues where the user is harming and violating the laws the (top) admins could track there IP. for legal matter

for the issue of banning using tor is away of getting around it which renders the IP ban useless (somehow)

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Re: Permission Setting to show IP address to Admins only

Post by EXreaction » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:48 pm

Better off not storing the IP at all then, which can be done via an extension.

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