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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby callumacrae » Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:09 pm

Popups, even JS ones, are bad.

Check the notifications RFC :-)
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby MichaelC » Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:39 pm

I think he means like flash notifications like http://www.erichynds.com/examples/jquery-notify/ which aren't bad as they are so un-obtrusive.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Vinny » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:07 pm

jsebean wrote: I run Google Chrome and by default the popup is blocked, plus I'm sure a lot of other people and browsers have the same problem.

This isn't a problem, this is a browser feature.

I dont like opening popup for a reason that I know, I just see the information 1 new message. :?

But, I would like to see a very nice box information :D . Some styles in the StyledDB already has the feature like that.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby jsebean » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:29 pm

Unknown Bliss wrote:I think he means like flash notifications like http://www.erichynds.com/examples/jquery-notify/ which aren't bad as they are so un-obtrusive.

Yes exactly something like/along those lines, a box on the actual page not a real popup.

Vinny wrote:
jsebean wrote: I run Google Chrome and by default the popup is blocked, plus I'm sure a lot of other people and browsers have the same problem.

This isn't a problem, this is a browser feature.

I dont like opening popup for a reason that I know, I just see the information 1 new message. :?

Ok not a problem but a feature. Thing is, it becomes a problem when people have PM Popup notification on, but don't receive the popup. Not everyone wants to mess with the browser/knows how to disable popups on a site to get a notification. Plus, and I'm sure others are this way, I rarely look in the PM area unless I am expecting a PM from someone, so a better notification, like Unknow Bliss mentioned, would be nice.

Vinny wrote:But, I would like to see a very nice box information :D . Some styles in the StyledDB already has the feature like that.

Link to an example? I don't browse the styles DB much.

callumacrae wrote:Popups, even JS ones, are bad.

Check the notifications RFC :-)

You mean notification box? I mean in regards to the popup that phpBB already has, should be improved upon.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Vinny » Tue May 01, 2012 12:08 am

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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Oleg » Tue May 01, 2012 2:12 am

Please no popups of any kind.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Senky » Tue May 01, 2012 7:05 am

Well, even though I do not consider JS-enhaced pop-ups as evil, I think simple colour difference with sufficient contrast should be pretty enough. Just like notifications at facebook or github.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby MichaelC » Tue May 01, 2012 7:06 am

Oleg wrote:Please no popups of any kind.


There already is, thats the point...
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Oleg » Wed May 02, 2012 5:20 am

The one that's there should then be replaced by not a popup.

If I'm not mistaken all modern browsers block popups therefore having a regular popup should be practically equivalent to having nothing at all.
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Re: [RFC] Improved PM Notification

Postby Oleg » Wed May 02, 2012 5:21 am

I do agree that currently new pm count is easy to overlook with it only being bold.

Senky wrote:Well, even though I do not consider JS-enhaced pop-ups as evil, I think simple colour difference with sufficient contrast should be pretty enough. Just like notifications at facebook or github.

Seems like a good direction of thinking to me.
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