[RFC|Accepted] Cleaning up the ACP UI

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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by leviatan21 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:05 pm

Clearing the GENERAL is a good idea.
IMHO quick access should do a simply redirect to the proper tab/menu and do not duplicate content
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:32 pm

I.1.B - Moderator Log - I can see this being used for quick access. The administrator log is linked in the main pane of the ACP index (although this does not work for going to the Admin Log from, say, the Security Settings page)

I.2.C and III.1 - Private Message Settings - I'm not sure that Client Communication is a good place for this, I'd see this under the "Posting" tab for similarity's sake.

I would counter-propose that the "Posting Tab" be renamed to "Messages", and would then encompass settings which affect public messages (i.e. posts) and private messages. This means Custom BBCodes, Word Censors, Attachments, &c.

Other than that, I believe I've implemented the list. Changes go to github once I get feedback what I've written in this post.
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by Typo » Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:55 am

Sounds great so far AJD!

One thing, instead of 'Messages', how about 'Posting & Messaging'? I know it's a bit long but I believe would clear up the possibility of any confusion.
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:04 am

Here's the changes I ended up with. Sort of a compromise. I left the "messages" header as it was, but added some new pages to it.

http://github.com/jellydoughnut/phpbb3/ ... icket/9705

You'd need to do a complete fresh install to see the module changes. Updating this would be a significant challgne, since users can customize their modules, install MODs, and so forth.
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by keith10456 » Sat Jul 10, 2010 4:37 pm

The ACP does need to be cleaned-up a bit and there is a lot of unnecessary duplication as pointed out in this post and another. However, I don't agree with dumping the General tab altogether. I like being able to go to the ACP and have quick access to what I'm looking for.

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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by Nelsaidi » Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:35 am

keith10456 wrote:The ACP does need to be cleaned-up a bit and there is a lot of unnecessary duplication as pointed out in this post and another. However, I don't agree with dumping the General tab altogether. I like being able to go to the ACP and have quick access to what I'm looking for.
Just an idea but perhaps making the general/quick access more easily customisable? afaik you do so through modules, but if made easier, more users would use them and you would have a true "quick access" tab since its what the admin commonly uses.

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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by imkingdavid » Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:21 am

Nelsaidi wrote:
keith10456 wrote:The ACP does need to be cleaned-up a bit and there is a lot of unnecessary duplication as pointed out in this post and another. However, I don't agree with dumping the General tab altogether. I like being able to go to the ACP and have quick access to what I'm looking for.
Just an idea but perhaps making the general/quick access more easily customisable? afaik you do so through modules, but if made easier, more users would use them and you would have a true "quick access" tab since its what the admin commonly uses.
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by callumacrae » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:17 pm

Something like iGoogle on the main page of phpBB would be good :D

Except I hate iGoogle.

You know what I mean, draggable modules and stuff.

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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by A_Jelly_Doughnut » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:42 pm

I suppose the ideal quick access modules would be the ones "most frequently used in the last 30 days" or some similar time frame. That would mean logging the number of times the module was accessed, which I don't see any other reason to implement.
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Re: Cleaning up the ACP UI

Post by Nelsaidi » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:19 pm

A_Jelly_Doughnut wrote:I suppose the ideal quick access modules would be the ones "most frequently used in the last 30 days" or some similar time frame. That would mean logging the number of times the module was accessed, which I don't see any other reason to implement.
This could potentially create create a unique ACP for every admin, and seeing as on many forums with multiple admins, each has a delegated post and not all deal with every aspect of the forum amdinistration, which is good.

Perhaps something like an Admin Note - leave a note for another admin on the home page, not essential and replaces an "admin" forum, but could be useful - This would be on the quick access page for help.

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