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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby Oleg » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:27 am

Indeed that does happen. This means our architecture is consistent, but silent modification of foes without my consent or even notification is perhaps not the best user experience and the issue in OP essentially still remains.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby bantu » Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:34 am

Oleg wrote:Indeed that does happen. This means our architecture is consistent, but silent modification of foes without my consent or even notification is perhaps not the best user experience and the issue in OP essentially still remains.

I agree, it's suboptimal.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby AliasM2K » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:46 am

naderman wrote:I believe it is very important, that users see all messages written by moderator or admins of a board. So it makes sense, that they are not able to hide them.


The UCP Front Page has an Important Announcement section which lists all important messages by admins or mods right? So, the user HAVE to see all the important messages by admins and mods, unless he purposefully ignores them; which is another story.

So, I personally say that it is ok if a user foe's admin or mods because it always is the option of the user to determine who is his/her friend or foe.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby *Daniel » Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:52 am

I'm sorry but I don't think menbers should be able to add admins/mods to the foe list. What happen if user a get in a fight with user b via PM and user a block user c who is the admin and user c go to send a PM to user a?

Also admin and mod are admin and mods for a reason, to enforce the rules and to set a good example to everyone else.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby shibulijack » Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:29 am

naderman wrote:I believe it is very important, that users see all messages written by moderator or admins of a board. So it makes sense, that they are not able to hide them.

+1
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby Oleg » Mon May 28, 2012 5:52 am

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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby Dragosvr92 » Mon May 28, 2012 11:21 am

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<bonelifer> I don't think users should be able to FOE founders/admin/mods, else they can say I didn't see that change in rules you posted.

And my reply to what thy say would be: Well, i didnt put you to add me on your foe's list. If you consider me a foe, then you might as well *beep* off from my board.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby drathbun » Tue May 29, 2012 4:33 pm

What would be nice is if a moderator could flag posts as "this is a moderator post" versus "this is me as a user post" which would solve the problem. For example, I should have to see any posts by user XX who is a board moderator if they are actively moderating, such as "please don't cross post blah blah blah." But suppose I don't agree with that particular moderator's political views? Those posts should be hidden from view.

As a quick and dirty solution, add a flag to the posts table called is_mod_post or something like that. When a moderator enters a post that is a part of their moderator duties, they click the box, and that post is guaranteed to be visible to all. But when they're talking about the upcoming election, they leave the checkbox blank, and the post is hidden to those that have added the moderator to a foe list.

It is my opinion that a board administrator account should never be used for casual posting, and therefore all administrator posts should always be visible. For example, you log in to a *nix system as "root" only for administrator tasks, not for casual use. However, many (if not most) board owners don't subscribe to this, and the board admin / founder account is also used for regular user posting. In that case the same checkbox could be used.

An additional benefit is that when is_mod_post is true, the post can be formatted / styled differently to make it stand out.

But ultimately that way a user can "foe" a moderator while still seeing moderator posts. If a moderator abuses the checkbox, then they can be removed as a moderator.
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby callumacrae » Tue May 29, 2012 5:59 pm

That's too complicated, imo
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Re: Ignore posts of all users on foe list

Postby drathbun » Tue May 29, 2012 7:12 pm

I have a different opinion. :) It's one additional check box to consider during posting, just like the "Disable BBCode" and so on, and at that it's only going to show up for moderators. On the display side (foe consideration) it's one additional field to consider. Is the user on the foe list and is_mod_post is FALSE then hide post else show post.
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